Jogger cautioned after attack on teen girl

Jogger cautioned after attack on teen girl

Jogger cautioned after attack on teen girl

First published in News

A JOGGER who assaulted a school girl on her way home in Southampton has been cautioned by police today.

The 15-year-old victim was walking with a friend in Kathleen Road, Bitterne, when a man ran up to them and accused them of knocking over a bin.

A dispute erupted before he grabbed the girl's hair and punched her in the ribs and only left after she struggled with him.

She returned home after the attack on February 4 did not seek medical attention.

The man later turned himself in to police.

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4:58pm Mon 10 Mar 14

RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE says...

wtf ???
wtf ??? RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE
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6:03pm Mon 10 Mar 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Instead of a caution, the daughter's father should have been given permission to punch him in the ribs!!

Just a caution for a grown man who punched a 15 year old girl is outrageous!
Instead of a caution, the daughter's father should have been given permission to punch him in the ribs!! Just a caution for a grown man who punched a 15 year old girl is outrageous! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: -22

8:28pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Rank Xerox says...

But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it?
But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it? Rank Xerox
  • Score: 37

8:49pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Graeme Harrison says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it?
Given that the jogger had to admit he was guilty of a criminal offence before he could be cautioned by the police, what's the relevance the bin?
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it?[/p][/quote]Given that the jogger had to admit he was guilty of a criminal offence before he could be cautioned by the police, what's the relevance the bin? Graeme Harrison
  • Score: -18

9:09pm Mon 10 Mar 14

downfader says...

Graeme Harrison wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it?
Given that the jogger had to admit he was guilty of a criminal offence before he could be cautioned by the police, what's the relevance the bin?
Thats not necessarily how it works. Sometimes Officers use a caution as a bargaining chip to give someone a criminal record, with a threat that it would go to court unless they accept the caution.

The Police are under pressure to show that they are tackling crime and this is one of the procedures sometimes deployed.

And yes there is a problem with antisocial teens in the Sholing area.
[quote][p][bold]Graeme Harrison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it?[/p][/quote]Given that the jogger had to admit he was guilty of a criminal offence before he could be cautioned by the police, what's the relevance the bin?[/p][/quote]Thats not necessarily how it works. Sometimes Officers use a caution as a bargaining chip to give someone a criminal record, with a threat that it would go to court unless they accept the caution. The Police are under pressure to show that they are tackling crime and this is one of the procedures sometimes deployed. And yes there is a problem with antisocial teens in the Sholing area. downfader
  • Score: 14

9:33pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Whataloadofsh*t says...

I am completely gob smacked that the Echo can write such unfounded drivel without there being some recourse!!! Saturday's story was completely mis-reported and today the same lies continue??? Interestingly the story has changed slightly to try and make it more accurate...it is no longer two girls but a girl and her friend..an older teenage boy in reality. The GENTLEMAN involved is a principled member of the community who was merely trying to stand up for the local residents...who I might add were too afraid of the chavs in question to want to become involved. A caution may have been issued but if anyone wants to check with the police it was NOT for the reasons the Echo are "stating" and was as a result of the gentleman putting his hands up to further prevent the "defenceless" female from grabbing his clothing and to enable him to continue on his way as she was continually verbally aggressive towards him. Society is in the state it currently in as a result of people being too afraid to stand up against anti-social behaviour for fear of situations such as this. I for one will not be referring to the Daily Echo for news following this as they are obviously unable to report accurately without putting innocent, law abiding people before the low life scum that have passed on these lies to them.
I am completely gob smacked that the Echo can write such unfounded drivel without there being some recourse!!! Saturday's story was completely mis-reported and today the same lies continue??? Interestingly the story has changed slightly to try and make it more accurate...it is no longer two girls but a girl and her friend..an older teenage boy in reality. The GENTLEMAN involved is a principled member of the community who was merely trying to stand up for the local residents...who I might add were too afraid of the chavs in question to want to become involved. A caution may have been issued but if anyone wants to check with the police it was NOT for the reasons the Echo are "stating" and was as a result of the gentleman putting his hands up to further prevent the "defenceless" female from grabbing his clothing and to enable him to continue on his way as she was continually verbally aggressive towards him. Society is in the state it currently in as a result of people being too afraid to stand up against anti-social behaviour for fear of situations such as this. I for one will not be referring to the Daily Echo for news following this as they are obviously unable to report accurately without putting innocent, law abiding people before the low life scum that have passed on these lies to them. Whataloadofsh*t
  • Score: 65

9:52pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Reality-man says...

Whataloadofsh*t wrote:
I am completely gob smacked that the Echo can write such unfounded drivel without there being some recourse!!! Saturday's story was completely mis-reported and today the same lies continue??? Interestingly the story has changed slightly to try and make it more accurate...it is no longer two girls but a girl and her friend..an older teenage boy in reality. The GENTLEMAN involved is a principled member of the community who was merely trying to stand up for the local residents...who I might add were too afraid of the chavs in question to want to become involved. A caution may have been issued but if anyone wants to check with the police it was NOT for the reasons the Echo are "stating" and was as a result of the gentleman putting his hands up to further prevent the "defenceless" female from grabbing his clothing and to enable him to continue on his way as she was continually verbally aggressive towards him. Society is in the state it currently in as a result of people being too afraid to stand up against anti-social behaviour for fear of situations such as this. I for one will not be referring to the Daily Echo for news following this as they are obviously unable to report accurately without putting innocent, law abiding people before the low life scum that have passed on these lies to them.
So did he grab the 15 year old girl by the hair and punch her in the ribs? Just asking
[quote][p][bold]Whataloadofsh*t[/bold] wrote: I am completely gob smacked that the Echo can write such unfounded drivel without there being some recourse!!! Saturday's story was completely mis-reported and today the same lies continue??? Interestingly the story has changed slightly to try and make it more accurate...it is no longer two girls but a girl and her friend..an older teenage boy in reality. The GENTLEMAN involved is a principled member of the community who was merely trying to stand up for the local residents...who I might add were too afraid of the chavs in question to want to become involved. A caution may have been issued but if anyone wants to check with the police it was NOT for the reasons the Echo are "stating" and was as a result of the gentleman putting his hands up to further prevent the "defenceless" female from grabbing his clothing and to enable him to continue on his way as she was continually verbally aggressive towards him. Society is in the state it currently in as a result of people being too afraid to stand up against anti-social behaviour for fear of situations such as this. I for one will not be referring to the Daily Echo for news following this as they are obviously unable to report accurately without putting innocent, law abiding people before the low life scum that have passed on these lies to them.[/p][/quote]So did he grab the 15 year old girl by the hair and punch her in the ribs? Just asking Reality-man
  • Score: -5

9:52pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Reality-man says...

Whataloadofsh*t wrote:
I am completely gob smacked that the Echo can write such unfounded drivel without there being some recourse!!! Saturday's story was completely mis-reported and today the same lies continue??? Interestingly the story has changed slightly to try and make it more accurate...it is no longer two girls but a girl and her friend..an older teenage boy in reality. The GENTLEMAN involved is a principled member of the community who was merely trying to stand up for the local residents...who I might add were too afraid of the chavs in question to want to become involved. A caution may have been issued but if anyone wants to check with the police it was NOT for the reasons the Echo are "stating" and was as a result of the gentleman putting his hands up to further prevent the "defenceless" female from grabbing his clothing and to enable him to continue on his way as she was continually verbally aggressive towards him. Society is in the state it currently in as a result of people being too afraid to stand up against anti-social behaviour for fear of situations such as this. I for one will not be referring to the Daily Echo for news following this as they are obviously unable to report accurately without putting innocent, law abiding people before the low life scum that have passed on these lies to them.
So did he grab the 15 year old girl by the hair and punch her in the ribs? Just asking
[quote][p][bold]Whataloadofsh*t[/bold] wrote: I am completely gob smacked that the Echo can write such unfounded drivel without there being some recourse!!! Saturday's story was completely mis-reported and today the same lies continue??? Interestingly the story has changed slightly to try and make it more accurate...it is no longer two girls but a girl and her friend..an older teenage boy in reality. The GENTLEMAN involved is a principled member of the community who was merely trying to stand up for the local residents...who I might add were too afraid of the chavs in question to want to become involved. A caution may have been issued but if anyone wants to check with the police it was NOT for the reasons the Echo are "stating" and was as a result of the gentleman putting his hands up to further prevent the "defenceless" female from grabbing his clothing and to enable him to continue on his way as she was continually verbally aggressive towards him. Society is in the state it currently in as a result of people being too afraid to stand up against anti-social behaviour for fear of situations such as this. I for one will not be referring to the Daily Echo for news following this as they are obviously unable to report accurately without putting innocent, law abiding people before the low life scum that have passed on these lies to them.[/p][/quote]So did he grab the 15 year old girl by the hair and punch her in the ribs? Just asking Reality-man
  • Score: -5

9:54pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Whataloadofsh*t says...

No...fact!
No...fact! Whataloadofsh*t
  • Score: 13

10:12pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Rina73 says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it?
Does it matter??

He assaulted a minor, or is that hard for you to understand!!
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it?[/p][/quote]Does it matter?? He assaulted a minor, or is that hard for you to understand!! Rina73
  • Score: -22

11:11pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Whataloadofsh*t says...

"Rank Xerox wrote:
But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it?"

No she didn't pull the bin over. Her male friend on a bike did....along with all the other wheelie bins turned over down Kathleen Road on this day.

Yes she was gobby..and aggressive! Said male friend piped down and left her to it strangely??? He is however lurking in the original photo on the Echo website, while the gentleman involved is pictured pointing at a wheelie bin and asking a resident if they are happy with their bin being on the floor...not pointing / shouting at the stroppy female involved as the Echo have inferred?! Gotta love the local press???
"Rank Xerox wrote: But did she pull the bin over and was she gobby with it?" No she didn't pull the bin over. Her male friend on a bike did....along with all the other wheelie bins turned over down Kathleen Road on this day. Yes she was gobby..and aggressive! Said male friend piped down and left her to it strangely??? He is however lurking in the original photo on the Echo website, while the gentleman involved is pictured pointing at a wheelie bin and asking a resident if they are happy with their bin being on the floor...not pointing / shouting at the stroppy female involved as the Echo have inferred?! Gotta love the local press??? Whataloadofsh*t
  • Score: 15

11:33pm Mon 10 Mar 14

userds5050 says...

Maybe PC Alexa Ward oughta think before she issues statements to the press. Duh.
Maybe PC Alexa Ward oughta think before she issues statements to the press. Duh. userds5050
  • Score: 8

11:48pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Whataloadofsh*t says...

The only statement PC Alexa Ward made was to ask for the other side of the situation as far as I can see, in reaction to the lies she was originally told? I see no further comment from PC Alexa Ward or Hampshire Police in today's Echo Jackanory tale??? Innocent people suffering at the hands of young people behaving anti socially.
The only statement PC Alexa Ward made was to ask for the other side of the situation as far as I can see, in reaction to the lies she was originally told? I see no further comment from PC Alexa Ward or Hampshire Police in today's Echo Jackanory tale??? Innocent people suffering at the hands of young people behaving anti socially. Whataloadofsh*t
  • Score: 10

1:17am Tue 11 Mar 14

userds5050 says...

Whataloadofsh*t wrote:
The only statement PC Alexa Ward made was to ask for the other side of the situation as far as I can see, in reaction to the lies she was originally told? I see no further comment from PC Alexa Ward or Hampshire Police in today's Echo Jackanory tale??? Innocent people suffering at the hands of young people behaving anti socially.
"His behaviour was unacceptable and I would like to speak with him about what happened."
Not sure what other side of the story story you're talking about.
The Police's job is to gather evidence, not to pass judgement on people's behaviour. The sooner they and you realise that the better.
[quote][p][bold]Whataloadofsh*t[/bold] wrote: The only statement PC Alexa Ward made was to ask for the other side of the situation as far as I can see, in reaction to the lies she was originally told? I see no further comment from PC Alexa Ward or Hampshire Police in today's Echo Jackanory tale??? Innocent people suffering at the hands of young people behaving anti socially.[/p][/quote]"His behaviour was unacceptable and I would like to speak with him about what happened." Not sure what other side of the story story you're talking about. The Police's job is to gather evidence, not to pass judgement on people's behaviour. The sooner they and you realise that the better. userds5050
  • Score: 0

6:18am Tue 11 Mar 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

chavs are filth,end of.
chavs are filth,end of. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 18

2:40pm Tue 11 Mar 14

charrlee says...

userds5050 wrote:
Whataloadofsh*t wrote:
The only statement PC Alexa Ward made was to ask for the other side of the situation as far as I can see, in reaction to the lies she was originally told? I see no further comment from PC Alexa Ward or Hampshire Police in today's Echo Jackanory tale??? Innocent people suffering at the hands of young people behaving anti socially.
"His behaviour was unacceptable and I would like to speak with him about what happened."
Not sure what other side of the story story you're talking about.
The Police's job is to gather evidence, not to pass judgement on people's behaviour. The sooner they and you realise that the better.
Fixed penalties and cautions are judgements, aren't they?
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whataloadofsh*t[/bold] wrote: The only statement PC Alexa Ward made was to ask for the other side of the situation as far as I can see, in reaction to the lies she was originally told? I see no further comment from PC Alexa Ward or Hampshire Police in today's Echo Jackanory tale??? Innocent people suffering at the hands of young people behaving anti socially.[/p][/quote]"His behaviour was unacceptable and I would like to speak with him about what happened." Not sure what other side of the story story you're talking about. The Police's job is to gather evidence, not to pass judgement on people's behaviour. The sooner they and you realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Fixed penalties and cautions are judgements, aren't they? charrlee
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3:32pm Tue 11 Mar 14

theoriginalwasp says...

Whataloadofsh*t wrote:
I am completely gob smacked that the Echo can write such unfounded drivel without there being some recourse!!! Saturday's story was completely mis-reported and today the same lies continue??? Interestingly the story has changed slightly to try and make it more accurate...it is no longer two girls but a girl and her friend..an older teenage boy in reality. The GENTLEMAN involved is a principled member of the community who was merely trying to stand up for the local residents...who I might add were too afraid of the chavs in question to want to become involved. A caution may have been issued but if anyone wants to check with the police it was NOT for the reasons the Echo are "stating" and was as a result of the gentleman putting his hands up to further prevent the "defenceless" female from grabbing his clothing and to enable him to continue on his way as she was continually verbally aggressive towards him. Society is in the state it currently in as a result of people being too afraid to stand up against anti-social behaviour for fear of situations such as this. I for one will not be referring to the Daily Echo for news following this as they are obviously unable to report accurately without putting innocent, law abiding people before the low life scum that have passed on these lies to them.
Jesus, calm down... It's just an old boy punching a kid. What's wrong with that?
[quote][p][bold]Whataloadofsh*t[/bold] wrote: I am completely gob smacked that the Echo can write such unfounded drivel without there being some recourse!!! Saturday's story was completely mis-reported and today the same lies continue??? Interestingly the story has changed slightly to try and make it more accurate...it is no longer two girls but a girl and her friend..an older teenage boy in reality. The GENTLEMAN involved is a principled member of the community who was merely trying to stand up for the local residents...who I might add were too afraid of the chavs in question to want to become involved. A caution may have been issued but if anyone wants to check with the police it was NOT for the reasons the Echo are "stating" and was as a result of the gentleman putting his hands up to further prevent the "defenceless" female from grabbing his clothing and to enable him to continue on his way as she was continually verbally aggressive towards him. Society is in the state it currently in as a result of people being too afraid to stand up against anti-social behaviour for fear of situations such as this. I for one will not be referring to the Daily Echo for news following this as they are obviously unable to report accurately without putting innocent, law abiding people before the low life scum that have passed on these lies to them.[/p][/quote]Jesus, calm down... It's just an old boy punching a kid. What's wrong with that? theoriginalwasp
  • Score: -3

11:05pm Tue 11 Mar 14

userds5050 says...

charrlee wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
Whataloadofsh*t wrote:
The only statement PC Alexa Ward made was to ask for the other side of the situation as far as I can see, in reaction to the lies she was originally told? I see no further comment from PC Alexa Ward or Hampshire Police in today's Echo Jackanory tale??? Innocent people suffering at the hands of young people behaving anti socially.
"His behaviour was unacceptable and I would like to speak with him about what happened."
Not sure what other side of the story story you're talking about.
The Police's job is to gather evidence, not to pass judgement on people's behaviour. The sooner they and you realise that the better.
Fixed penalties and cautions are judgements, aren't they?
Fair point. You can of course refuse either and have your day in court.
[quote][p][bold]charrlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whataloadofsh*t[/bold] wrote: The only statement PC Alexa Ward made was to ask for the other side of the situation as far as I can see, in reaction to the lies she was originally told? I see no further comment from PC Alexa Ward or Hampshire Police in today's Echo Jackanory tale??? Innocent people suffering at the hands of young people behaving anti socially.[/p][/quote]"His behaviour was unacceptable and I would like to speak with him about what happened." Not sure what other side of the story story you're talking about. The Police's job is to gather evidence, not to pass judgement on people's behaviour. The sooner they and you realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Fixed penalties and cautions are judgements, aren't they?[/p][/quote]Fair point. You can of course refuse either and have your day in court. userds5050
  • Score: 0

12:40am Wed 12 Mar 14

Whataloadofsh*t says...

Or, if you didn't do anything other than push someone who is in your face and aggressive away...which you are transparent about under the circumstances and you get told you can go to court (obviously unfairly in this situation and actually very stressful for no reason) or be cautioned for making contact with the aggressor what would any sensible person do?
At a risk of repetition, how many people would now want to stand up for their local community and prevent anti social behaviour such as this?
I definitely stand down. Let's await the next episode in Kathleen road when these teenagers feel they are invincible and can do as they wish, due to the mismanagement of this situation.
Or, if you didn't do anything other than push someone who is in your face and aggressive away...which you are transparent about under the circumstances and you get told you can go to court (obviously unfairly in this situation and actually very stressful for no reason) or be cautioned for making contact with the aggressor what would any sensible person do? At a risk of repetition, how many people would now want to stand up for their local community and prevent anti social behaviour such as this? I definitely stand down. Let's await the next episode in Kathleen road when these teenagers feel they are invincible and can do as they wish, due to the mismanagement of this situation. Whataloadofsh*t
  • Score: 3

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