County braced for walk-outs

County braced for walk-outs

County braced for walk-outs

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SCHOOLS will shut, bins will go unemptied, libraries will close, and courts will be disrupted as local government grinds to a halt today.

Public sector employees in Hampshire will be taking part in a joint day of action leading to an estimated one million workers walking out across the country.

It will mean key local government services will be disrupted members of some of the biggest unions including Unison, unite and the GMB refuse to work in protest at pay, conditions and ongoing cuts to budgets.

Out with them will be members of the National Union of Teachers whose actions have led to more than 60 schools in Hampshire being closed to all or some of their pupils.

Members of the Fire Brigade Union (FBU) will also stand on the picket lines in protest at pension cuts and pay.

Hampshire Fire and Rescue is predicting its workforce will be halved as a result, impacting on response time to emergency incidents between 10am and 7pm when their nine-hour strike is staged.

Transport for London workers would also join the action with members of the Rail, Maritime and Transport Union taking part in the strikes. Job centres and driving test centres could be affected.

The county’s courts could see cases adjourned as a result of the walkout by the Public and Commercial Services Union, who also have members at the Maritime and Coastguard Agency.

The main impact will be felt across local government however as social care, bin collections, parking services and burials all face significant disruption while Southampton City Council has confirmed that all libraries in the city will be closed however, a spokesman said it was difficult to predict the extent of the disruption as workers were not required to tell the authority of their intention to strike.

Eastleigh Borough Council leader Keith House said they expected some disruption to waste collections. He said householders should put out their bins as usual and they would be collected as soon as possible.

Unions are remaining defiant over the action, with one branding a one per cent pay offer to their members an insult.

Unite is seeking a £1 per hour increase in pay for the council workforce. Regional officer Ian Woodland said: “The depth of feeling on the pay issue is reinforced by the fact that local government unions, GMB and Unison, and members of the National Union of Teachers are all taking action.”

Striking teachers will meet for a rally at 11.30am at Watts Park in Southampton before joining with public sector colleagues outside the Civic Centre. Pickets are also being staged outside council buildings across Hampshire.

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6:16am Thu 10 Jul 14

bigfella777 says...

So does this mean people can park for free today? I doubt it
So does this mean people can park for free today? I doubt it bigfella777
  • Score: 7

7:06am Thu 10 Jul 14

loosehead says...

So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike?
They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it.
They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?
So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike? They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it. They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking? loosehead
  • Score: 10

8:25am Thu 10 Jul 14

Revolution802 says...

loosehead wrote:
So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike?
They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it.
They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?
Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy.

Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike? They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it. They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?[/p][/quote]Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy. Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job. Revolution802
  • Score: 6

8:27am Thu 10 Jul 14

joiner123 says...

Whilst I agree with the idea of "sticking it to the man" people in unskilled labour council jobs don't seem to realise they get paid well and have a kooshty job with good benefits already. If they're not careful they'll get immigrants in at half their hourly, it happens in the private sector so no reason why it wouldn't in the public sector.
Whilst I agree with the idea of "sticking it to the man" people in unskilled labour council jobs don't seem to realise they get paid well and have a kooshty job with good benefits already. If they're not careful they'll get immigrants in at half their hourly, it happens in the private sector so no reason why it wouldn't in the public sector. joiner123
  • Score: 6

8:41am Thu 10 Jul 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

When work was slow a couple of years ago, our boss did his best not to lay us off, and we, in turn, accepted a pay drop, and a shorter working week, to get through these hard times.
We survived this slack period, we all kept our jobs, and since then have recruited 20 more people. We all pulled together and got through, without striking or throwing our toys out of the pram! This is what we have to do in the Private Sector...but I don't expect any council workers to understand this.
When work was slow a couple of years ago, our boss did his best not to lay us off, and we, in turn, accepted a pay drop, and a shorter working week, to get through these hard times. We survived this slack period, we all kept our jobs, and since then have recruited 20 more people. We all pulled together and got through, without striking or throwing our toys out of the pram! This is what we have to do in the Private Sector...but I don't expect any council workers to understand this. 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 13

8:43am Thu 10 Jul 14

Parrotgone says...

Revolution802 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike?
They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it.
They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?
Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy.

Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.
Striking workers don't get paid. They lose a day's pay.

Most public sector workers haven't had a pay rise for the last 5 years - meaning their pay is declining in real terms.

Many public sector jobs are covered by national pay agreements, so the option to "look around" is not there, presuming we still want someone to do public sector jobs.

And if you still believe that job security is one of the perks then you need to pay a bit more attention - upwards of 600,000 public sector workers had lost their jobs by 2013, and the government's proposal for continued reductions will see that rise to an estimated one million (according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies) by 2018, leaving the public sector the smallest it has been since the establishment of the welfare state.
[quote][p][bold]Revolution802[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike? They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it. They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?[/p][/quote]Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy. Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.[/p][/quote]Striking workers don't get paid. They lose a day's pay. Most public sector workers haven't had a pay rise for the last 5 years - meaning their pay is declining in real terms. Many public sector jobs are covered by national pay agreements, so the option to "look around" is not there, presuming we still want someone to do public sector jobs. And if you still believe that job security is one of the perks then you need to pay a bit more attention - upwards of 600,000 public sector workers had lost their jobs by 2013, and the government's proposal for continued reductions will see that rise to an estimated one million (according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies) by 2018, leaving the public sector the smallest it has been since the establishment of the welfare state. Parrotgone
  • Score: -6

8:50am Thu 10 Jul 14

sfby says...

Revolution802 wrote:
loosehead wrote: So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike? They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it. They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?
Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy. Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.
I don't support the strike, but a couple of points - Loosehead, the offer is 1%, not 1.9%, and Revolution802, I'm pretty sure strikers don't get paid for the day they strike. Having said that, not a lot of strike action around the Civic this morning - not so much a day of action, more a nice lie-in!
[quote][p][bold]Revolution802[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike? They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it. They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?[/p][/quote]Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy. Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.[/p][/quote]I don't support the strike, but a couple of points - Loosehead, the offer is 1%, not 1.9%, and Revolution802, I'm pretty sure strikers don't get paid for the day they strike. Having said that, not a lot of strike action around the Civic this morning - not so much a day of action, more a nice lie-in! sfby
  • Score: 1

9:03am Thu 10 Jul 14

Parrotgone says...

And this isn't just about public sector wages. Driving down wages there contributes to driving down wages generally, leading to a continued fall in wages in all sectors - private and public, and most industries.
Executive pay though continues to rise, and mps are set for an 11% pay rise.
And this isn't just about public sector wages. Driving down wages there contributes to driving down wages generally, leading to a continued fall in wages in all sectors - private and public, and most industries. Executive pay though continues to rise, and mps are set for an 11% pay rise. Parrotgone
  • Score: -9

9:04am Thu 10 Jul 14

Parrotgone says...

100%HANTSBOY wrote:
When work was slow a couple of years ago, our boss did his best not to lay us off, and we, in turn, accepted a pay drop, and a shorter working week, to get through these hard times.
We survived this slack period, we all kept our jobs, and since then have recruited 20 more people. We all pulled together and got through, without striking or throwing our toys out of the pram! This is what we have to do in the Private Sector...but I don't expect any council workers to understand this.
Have you had a pay rise since? D'you think you'll have one between now an 2018?
[quote][p][bold]100%HANTSBOY[/bold] wrote: When work was slow a couple of years ago, our boss did his best not to lay us off, and we, in turn, accepted a pay drop, and a shorter working week, to get through these hard times. We survived this slack period, we all kept our jobs, and since then have recruited 20 more people. We all pulled together and got through, without striking or throwing our toys out of the pram! This is what we have to do in the Private Sector...but I don't expect any council workers to understand this.[/p][/quote]Have you had a pay rise since? D'you think you'll have one between now an 2018? Parrotgone
  • Score: -1

9:16am Thu 10 Jul 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

While they strike teachers can plan their exotic holidays for the upcoming 6 weeks off with the added inset days chucked on the end. No bins emptied isn't so bad as bin men leave most of the rubbish strewn across the road anyway. Thumbs down brigade commence.
While they strike teachers can plan their exotic holidays for the upcoming 6 weeks off with the added inset days chucked on the end. No bins emptied isn't so bad as bin men leave most of the rubbish strewn across the road anyway. Thumbs down brigade commence. Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: 4

9:40am Thu 10 Jul 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Parrotgone wrote:
100%HANTSBOY wrote:
When work was slow a couple of years ago, our boss did his best not to lay us off, and we, in turn, accepted a pay drop, and a shorter working week, to get through these hard times.
We survived this slack period, we all kept our jobs, and since then have recruited 20 more people. We all pulled together and got through, without striking or throwing our toys out of the pram! This is what we have to do in the Private Sector...but I don't expect any council workers to understand this.
Have you had a pay rise since? D'you think you'll have one between now an 2018?
When work picked up, we went back to our original hourly rates, and full 38 hours and since then I've gone up a pound an hour.
I am under no illusion, if work continues to pour in, as it is at
present, then we'll probably be
considered for a pay rise in the
near future, what we don't take
for granted is our job security.

As I see it, a couple of years ago, public sector workers in Southampton were asked to consider a pay drop in order to avoid future redundancies, they refused, went on strike and now 2 years later the need for these redundancies has resurfaced.
No forward thinking....live for tge day....and now it comes back to bite them in the @rse!

I hope the Unions are proud of themselves!
[quote][p][bold]Parrotgone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]100%HANTSBOY[/bold] wrote: When work was slow a couple of years ago, our boss did his best not to lay us off, and we, in turn, accepted a pay drop, and a shorter working week, to get through these hard times. We survived this slack period, we all kept our jobs, and since then have recruited 20 more people. We all pulled together and got through, without striking or throwing our toys out of the pram! This is what we have to do in the Private Sector...but I don't expect any council workers to understand this.[/p][/quote]Have you had a pay rise since? D'you think you'll have one between now an 2018?[/p][/quote]When work picked up, we went back to our original hourly rates, and full 38 hours and since then I've gone up a pound an hour. I am under no illusion, if work continues to pour in, as it is at present, then we'll probably be considered for a pay rise in the near future, what we don't take for granted is our job security. As I see it, a couple of years ago, public sector workers in Southampton were asked to consider a pay drop in order to avoid future redundancies, they refused, went on strike and now 2 years later the need for these redundancies has resurfaced. No forward thinking....live for tge day....and now it comes back to bite them in the @rse! I hope the Unions are proud of themselves! 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 9

9:49am Thu 10 Jul 14

Revolution802 says...

Parrotgone wrote:
Revolution802 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike?
They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it.
They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?
Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy.

Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.
Striking workers don't get paid. They lose a day's pay.

Most public sector workers haven't had a pay rise for the last 5 years - meaning their pay is declining in real terms.

Many public sector jobs are covered by national pay agreements, so the option to "look around" is not there, presuming we still want someone to do public sector jobs.

And if you still believe that job security is one of the perks then you need to pay a bit more attention - upwards of 600,000 public sector workers had lost their jobs by 2013, and the government's proposal for continued reductions will see that rise to an estimated one million (according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies) by 2018, leaving the public sector the smallest it has been since the establishment of the welfare state.
Well I am glad that the public sector are experiencing the difficult times, hopefully we can privatise the councils so that if the services remain to be as appalling as they are then we will have a higher standard of service.

Scrap all the public sector jobs worths!!!
[quote][p][bold]Parrotgone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Revolution802[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike? They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it. They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?[/p][/quote]Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy. Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.[/p][/quote]Striking workers don't get paid. They lose a day's pay. Most public sector workers haven't had a pay rise for the last 5 years - meaning their pay is declining in real terms. Many public sector jobs are covered by national pay agreements, so the option to "look around" is not there, presuming we still want someone to do public sector jobs. And if you still believe that job security is one of the perks then you need to pay a bit more attention - upwards of 600,000 public sector workers had lost their jobs by 2013, and the government's proposal for continued reductions will see that rise to an estimated one million (according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies) by 2018, leaving the public sector the smallest it has been since the establishment of the welfare state.[/p][/quote]Well I am glad that the public sector are experiencing the difficult times, hopefully we can privatise the councils so that if the services remain to be as appalling as they are then we will have a higher standard of service. Scrap all the public sector jobs worths!!! Revolution802
  • Score: 3

9:56am Thu 10 Jul 14

Parrotgone says...

Revolution802 wrote:
Parrotgone wrote:
Revolution802 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike?
They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it.
They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?
Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy.

Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.
Striking workers don't get paid. They lose a day's pay.

Most public sector workers haven't had a pay rise for the last 5 years - meaning their pay is declining in real terms.

Many public sector jobs are covered by national pay agreements, so the option to "look around" is not there, presuming we still want someone to do public sector jobs.

And if you still believe that job security is one of the perks then you need to pay a bit more attention - upwards of 600,000 public sector workers had lost their jobs by 2013, and the government's proposal for continued reductions will see that rise to an estimated one million (according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies) by 2018, leaving the public sector the smallest it has been since the establishment of the welfare state.
Well I am glad that the public sector are experiencing the difficult times, hopefully we can privatise the councils so that if the services remain to be as appalling as they are then we will have a higher standard of service.

Scrap all the public sector jobs worths!!!
Well, if you're in favour of privatised councils, privatised education, privatised social services, privatised welfare services and privatised health and fire services fair enough. We are a long way down that particular track already. Much of what people consider public sector services are in fact already outsourced. Those services don't seem to have been met with universal acclaim.
[quote][p][bold]Revolution802[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parrotgone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Revolution802[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike? They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it. They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?[/p][/quote]Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy. Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.[/p][/quote]Striking workers don't get paid. They lose a day's pay. Most public sector workers haven't had a pay rise for the last 5 years - meaning their pay is declining in real terms. Many public sector jobs are covered by national pay agreements, so the option to "look around" is not there, presuming we still want someone to do public sector jobs. And if you still believe that job security is one of the perks then you need to pay a bit more attention - upwards of 600,000 public sector workers had lost their jobs by 2013, and the government's proposal for continued reductions will see that rise to an estimated one million (according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies) by 2018, leaving the public sector the smallest it has been since the establishment of the welfare state.[/p][/quote]Well I am glad that the public sector are experiencing the difficult times, hopefully we can privatise the councils so that if the services remain to be as appalling as they are then we will have a higher standard of service. Scrap all the public sector jobs worths!!![/p][/quote]Well, if you're in favour of privatised councils, privatised education, privatised social services, privatised welfare services and privatised health and fire services fair enough. We are a long way down that particular track already. Much of what people consider public sector services are in fact already outsourced. Those services don't seem to have been met with universal acclaim. Parrotgone
  • Score: -1

12:48pm Thu 10 Jul 14

camerajuan says...

If I was on a teacher's salary, and had summer off, I would be ashamed to strike.
If I was on a teacher's salary, and had summer off, I would be ashamed to strike. camerajuan
  • Score: 3

1:07pm Thu 10 Jul 14

loosehead says...

sfby wrote:
Revolution802 wrote:
loosehead wrote: So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike? They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it. They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?
Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy. Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.
I don't support the strike, but a couple of points - Loosehead, the offer is 1%, not 1.9%, and Revolution802, I'm pretty sure strikers don't get paid for the day they strike. Having said that, not a lot of strike action around the Civic this morning - not so much a day of action, more a nice lie-in!
Why is it the council said they were raising council tax by 1.9% to give council workers a 1.9% pay rise if they're indeed only giving you 1%?
Can anyone tell me what happened to the amount set aside for refuse collection that's now paid for by a Government grant where did that money go to?
Where's all the revenue from the Itchen Bridge & car parks going to?
As a city were either on the same council tax or there abouts with surrounding areas so where's all that extra revenue gone to?
TUC said on the politics show they are striking for the living wage so will those workers above the living wage will they take a pay cut?
[quote][p][bold]sfby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Revolution802[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So exactly why are Southampton council workers going on strike? They had their pay restored even though we as a city can't afford it. They are getting a 1.9% pay rise paid for by a 1.9% council tax rise which could have gone to keep services so they're getting a pay rise so why are they striking?[/p][/quote]Typical, any opportunity to get out of working for the day and still get paid. If I didn't agree with the way my company are running things or wanted higher pay and benefits I look around to move jobs just like the rest of the private sector, if I strike then I would expect not to return to my desk as its obvious I'm not happy. Get a grip and understand that working for the government has its perks, job security is just one that people in the private sector don't have, if our standard of work slips we would be looking for another job.[/p][/quote]I don't support the strike, but a couple of points - Loosehead, the offer is 1%, not 1.9%, and Revolution802, I'm pretty sure strikers don't get paid for the day they strike. Having said that, not a lot of strike action around the Civic this morning - not so much a day of action, more a nice lie-in![/p][/quote]Why is it the council said they were raising council tax by 1.9% to give council workers a 1.9% pay rise if they're indeed only giving you 1%? Can anyone tell me what happened to the amount set aside for refuse collection that's now paid for by a Government grant where did that money go to? Where's all the revenue from the Itchen Bridge & car parks going to? As a city were either on the same council tax or there abouts with surrounding areas so where's all that extra revenue gone to? TUC said on the politics show they are striking for the living wage so will those workers above the living wage will they take a pay cut? loosehead
  • Score: 0

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