Southampton Ford plant closed one year ago today

The former Ford plant at Southampton

The former Ford plant at Southampton

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

It is a year ago today that Southampton suffered a body blow of the closure of Ford’s Transit plant.

At its peak more than 4,000 workers were employed at the Swaythling factory.

But there was shock when Ford confirmed it would be moving production of the iconic van after more than 40 years of production in the city to Turkey, where costs are “significantly lower” than in western Europe.

Despite the bitter blow for hundreds of workers, the company said it remained committed to keeping Ford in the city. It announced it would open a vehicle refurbishment centre on the site and a new vehicle distribution centre at the docks.

But what has happened since the last Transit – the 2,200,173rd – rolled off the production line?

Daily Echo: Transit vans rolling off the production line at the Southampton Ford plant

Transit vans being assembled at the Swaythling plant.

The planned distribution centre has yet to completely open, with a decommissioning process still on-going one year later, while the new £12 million vehicle refurbishment centre is operational.

The distribution centre forms part of Ford’s logistics operations and covers import vehicle handling, onward distribution, and the shipping of engines to China.

The decision to close the plant last year affected 531 employees.

Ford’s new and expanded operations in Southampton provided positions for 134 of these employees, while a further 41 took up positions at other Ford locations in the UK.

It meant 356 employees took voluntary redundancy packages.

One of those who stayed with the company was Jagmohan Singh, who lives in the St Mary’s area of Southampton.

Daily Echo:

Jagmohan Singh on the Transit production line.

Along with other members of staff, he signed the last ever Transit van to be produced at the factory.

He told the Daily Echo he is still enjoying life with the firm as a van driver at the refurbishment arm of the firm.

Mr Singh said: “At the moment there are around 120 people working at the docks. I am really happy.

“Some people went on to other branches, like Cardiff and Liverpool, while others got a package and left the company.

“The closure of the former factory was very sad for many people that lost jobs. It was a really sad time because everyone was thinking about what was going to happen in the future. It’s a good atmosphere here. It’s like one happy family. I am glad I didn’t leave the company, and my family are pleased I stayed as well.”

Fred Hanna, regional officer for Unite the union, said the union fought to keep Ford in the city, but said the people of Southampton were let down. He also said staff did not envisage the Wide Lane site would still be in a decommissioning process 12 months on.

He said: “We kept 60 jobs on at the plant for the refurbishment centre and got an extra 60 jobs down on the docks. We maintained a footprint in Southampton.

“The refurbishment centre is taking time but it is my understanding that it is going to happen sooner rather than later.

“But it has been slow and we didn't anticipate it would take this long. We have been told it will happen sooner but not fully as we were promised.

“Some 20 of those employees have been moved to the docks while the ones that were in the plant probably have concerns for their long-term future.

“I think the people of Southampton were let down by Ford - it was not running at a loss.

“The car industry in this country is booming but the local economy took a hit for it and the industry we have lost will probably not come back.”

While studies and decommissioning of the Swaythling site continues one year on, including environmental remediation, legal and planning matters, Southampton Itchen MP John Denham said it was vital the site is secured for future employment opportunities.

Daily Echo: Southampton Itchen MP John Denham

Southampton Itchen MP John Denham.

He said: “The biggest hole that has been left is that it has taken well-paid manufacturing jobs out of the city.

“Although unemployment rates are not particularly high here, we haven't really got like for like in the city.

“The real challenge is now what we can secure for the future of the site.

“Things are unclear because Ford haven't completed the work they have to do on the condition of the site and what needs to be done to make it available for development - there are three decades of industrial use on there.

“We must not miss the opportunity and it is crucial the focus is on high-quality jobs. It's very easy to cover it with warehousing but we don't want that.

“We need to take advantage of the technology skills we have in Southampton.”

A spokesman for Southampton City Council said: “Since the closure of the Ford Factory, Southampton City Council has worked with Ford, various government departments, Eastleigh Borough Council and other key stakeholders to ensure the future use of the Ford site for employment purposes.

“A strong working relationship exists between all parties and the council continues to ensure that our local MPs are regularly updated.”

A Ford spokesman said it is hoped the vehicle refurbishment centre will be fully up and running by the end of the year.

They said: “We are invested in these two centres and we continue to be committed to Southampton.”

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12:38pm Sat 26 Jul 14

southy says...

And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit. southy
  • Score: -6

12:53pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
No-one took your ideas up for re-use of the site then...

Can't think why..?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]No-one took your ideas up for re-use of the site then... Can't think why..? Shoong
  • Score: 8

1:44pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to? Torchie1
  • Score: 8

2:30pm Sat 26 Jul 14

binghammac says...

Readers need to be reminded that Ford were given a grant of £80 million by the European Investment Bank, a division of the European Commission, to commence or expand production of Ford transits in Turkey, a country that is not even a member of the European Union, a country that does not contribute a single penny to the EU coffers. Yet, British financial contributions were employed to put British taxpayers out of a job. It is disgraceful that the likes of Denham, and the Eastleigh Lib-Dem MP, made absolutely no attempt to stop this transgression and may they forever be pilloried and shamed. Why was'nt this £80 million invested in the UK?
Readers need to be reminded that Ford were given a grant of £80 million by the European Investment Bank, a division of the European Commission, to commence or expand production of Ford transits in Turkey, a country that is not even a member of the European Union, a country that does not contribute a single penny to the EU coffers. Yet, British financial contributions were employed to put British taxpayers out of a job. It is disgraceful that the likes of Denham, and the Eastleigh Lib-Dem MP, made absolutely no attempt to stop this transgression and may they forever be pilloried and shamed. Why was'nt this £80 million invested in the UK? binghammac
  • Score: 18

2:31pm Sat 26 Jul 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing southy
  • Score: -4

4:25pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this. Torchie1
  • Score: 5

6:43pm Sat 26 Jul 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also. southy
  • Score: -6

8:29pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice. Torchie1
  • Score: 5

8:35pm Sat 26 Jul 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail. southy
  • Score: -4

8:47pm Sat 26 Jul 14

andreww says...

'The planned distribution centre has yet to completely open, with a decommissioning process still on-going one year later, while the new £12 million vehicle refurbishment centre is operational.'

Please get your facts correct, The Daily Echo.

The distribution centre IS completely open.
'The planned distribution centre has yet to completely open, with a decommissioning process still on-going one year later, while the new £12 million vehicle refurbishment centre is operational.' Please get your facts correct, The Daily Echo. The distribution centre IS completely open. andreww
  • Score: 5

9:03pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.
I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.[/p][/quote]I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime. Torchie1
  • Score: 3

11:50am Sun 27 Jul 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.
I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.
Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work.
This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.[/p][/quote]I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.[/p][/quote]Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work. This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing southy
  • Score: -3

1:07pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.
I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.
Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work.
This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing
You'll stop digging eventually.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.[/p][/quote]I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.[/p][/quote]Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work. This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]You'll stop digging eventually. Torchie1
  • Score: 2

1:21pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.
I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.
Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work.
This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing
You are a strange one.

You gibber made up nonsense then somehow it's up to us to prove you right..?

No wonder you were de-selected.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.[/p][/quote]I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.[/p][/quote]Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work. This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]You are a strange one. You gibber made up nonsense then somehow it's up to us to prove you right..? No wonder you were de-selected. Shoong
  • Score: 4

1:49pm Sun 27 Jul 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.
I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.
Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work.
This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing
You'll stop digging eventually.
Its not digging at all its what do happen in real life, Corporations do very little paying out they even get away with tax fiddle legally and when they can't do it legally they lobby government to get thing change in there favour, they don't care who must suffer so long as there profits are high and share holders get there large lump sum.
Try back track the Echo News about Fords go back 4 to 8 years and read all the articles about the Transit Plant, also read up on back dated news items, look at some of the bloggs, theres a hell of high number of people that remember these things even low you can not.
And like I said the onus is all ways on the inquirer to find out.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.[/p][/quote]I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.[/p][/quote]Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work. This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]You'll stop digging eventually.[/p][/quote]Its not digging at all its what do happen in real life, Corporations do very little paying out they even get away with tax fiddle legally and when they can't do it legally they lobby government to get thing change in there favour, they don't care who must suffer so long as there profits are high and share holders get there large lump sum. Try back track the Echo News about Fords go back 4 to 8 years and read all the articles about the Transit Plant, also read up on back dated news items, look at some of the bloggs, theres a hell of high number of people that remember these things even low you can not. And like I said the onus is all ways on the inquirer to find out. southy
  • Score: -5

1:53pm Sun 27 Jul 14

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.
I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.
Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work.
This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing
You are a strange one.

You gibber made up nonsense then somehow it's up to us to prove you right..?

No wonder you were de-selected.
Still lieing I see, was not deselected ask Nick chaffey, I stood down for a few years other conmitements.
The it is up to you to find out you want to know so your the inquirer so the onus is on you to find out and not one else, Think of it being back at school and the Teacher set you a signment, The teacher do not go and find out things for you do they, that is down to you to do.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.[/p][/quote]I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.[/p][/quote]Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work. This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]You are a strange one. You gibber made up nonsense then somehow it's up to us to prove you right..? No wonder you were de-selected.[/p][/quote]Still lieing I see, was not deselected ask Nick chaffey, I stood down for a few years other conmitements. The it is up to you to find out you want to know so your the inquirer so the onus is on you to find out and not one else, Think of it being back at school and the Teacher set you a signment, The teacher do not go and find out things for you do they, that is down to you to do. southy
  • Score: -4

2:36pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.
I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.
Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work.
This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing
You are a strange one.

You gibber made up nonsense then somehow it's up to us to prove you right..?

No wonder you were de-selected.
Still lieing I see, was not deselected ask Nick chaffey, I stood down for a few years other conmitements.
The it is up to you to find out you want to know so your the inquirer so the onus is on you to find out and not one else, Think of it being back at school and the Teacher set you a signment, The teacher do not go and find out things for you do they, that is down to you to do.
In light of the replacement candidate managing to double the vote, how long do you think the 'few years' will be?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.[/p][/quote]I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.[/p][/quote]Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work. This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]You are a strange one. You gibber made up nonsense then somehow it's up to us to prove you right..? No wonder you were de-selected.[/p][/quote]Still lieing I see, was not deselected ask Nick chaffey, I stood down for a few years other conmitements. The it is up to you to find out you want to know so your the inquirer so the onus is on you to find out and not one else, Think of it being back at school and the Teacher set you a signment, The teacher do not go and find out things for you do they, that is down to you to do.[/p][/quote]In light of the replacement candidate managing to double the vote, how long do you think the 'few years' will be? Torchie1
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3:54pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.
You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?
Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools.
This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing
Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.
Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys.
Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.
I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.
Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.
I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.
Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work.
This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing
You are a strange one.

You gibber made up nonsense then somehow it's up to us to prove you right..?

No wonder you were de-selected.
Still lieing I see, was not deselected ask Nick chaffey, I stood down for a few years other conmitements.
The it is up to you to find out you want to know so your the inquirer so the onus is on you to find out and not one else, Think of it being back at school and the Teacher set you a signment, The teacher do not go and find out things for you do they, that is down to you to do.
Still hiding behind the pinafore of the intellectual giant Nick Chaffey it would appear then.

When are you going to learn to be your own man?
You're not getting any younger.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: And what happen to the £50 million that our Government gave to Fords to remain in the city to produce the Transit.[/p][/quote]You've already convinced yourself that someone has run off with it and has it stashed in their Cayman Islands Building Society account so why pose a question that you have already decided the answer to?[/p][/quote]Ford approuch our Government and black mailed them into £50 million for Fords to stay and carry on prouducing the Transits in the UK, the £50 million was for the next production of the Transit van and what they endded up doing is producing Chassis Cabs, Fords got the money 2 1/2 years ago £50 million for new tools. This is how Corporation companys operate they black mail countrys governments, The only Country that I know off that did not fool for the black mail was Spain, they tured round to fords and said if you want to sale your cars in there country then you must build here also, and that is what happen Fords had to pay out for the land the building works the tools just so they could sale ford cars in Spain, unlike every where else Fords got each country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]Naturally you can offer up evidence of this serious accusation because when you send your email to :- amulally@ford.com , I expect he will be interested. In fact I think I'll forward the link and then you can tell him how as the CEO of Ford Motor Company, he can't go around breaking the law like this.[/p][/quote]Its not breaking the law at all, Its been going on since the the 51 Tory Government under Churchill, the UK supplied land and paid for the cost building factorys and for the tooling up of the Factorys. Ford owned only the badge that is stuck on to the vehicle, and this is the case of all none british manufactry. Spain was the only country that would not allow this to happen to them, they turned the table on Ford and told them if you want to sell your cars here then you must build here also.[/p][/quote]I've supplied the email address of Ford Motor Company's CEO so address your complaint to him. I expect he'll find it quite refreshing to hear your sage advice.[/p][/quote]Why don't you do some real history reseach, Or at lest try and remember the news items in your life time and I do not need Fords E-mail.[/p][/quote]I was wondering when the onus would be put on me to uncover some substance to back up your fantasy. It must be getting close to your bedtime.[/p][/quote]Torchie1 if you got a poor memory don't blame others for your failings, try wrinting key notes down and the onus is on you not me or any one else, so stop trying to play that card it don't work. This is how Corporations have all ways work, get the country to pay for every thing[/p][/quote]You are a strange one. You gibber made up nonsense then somehow it's up to us to prove you right..? No wonder you were de-selected.[/p][/quote]Still lieing I see, was not deselected ask Nick chaffey, I stood down for a few years other conmitements. The it is up to you to find out you want to know so your the inquirer so the onus is on you to find out and not one else, Think of it being back at school and the Teacher set you a signment, The teacher do not go and find out things for you do they, that is down to you to do.[/p][/quote]Still hiding behind the pinafore of the intellectual giant Nick Chaffey it would appear then. When are you going to learn to be your own man? You're not getting any younger. Shoong
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