Driver speeds through Mount Pleasant level crossing in Southampton as barriers come down

Car jumping the barrier at Mount Pleasant level crossing in Southampton

Car jumping the barrier at Mount Pleasant level crossing in Southampton

Car jumping the barrier at Mount Pleasant level crossing in Southampton

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Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Political reporter

A MOTORIST put his life at danger by speeding across a level crossing as the barriers were coming down, in a desperate attempt to avoid having to wait.

The footage from a CCTV camera at a crossing in Southampton, shows the motorist driving on the wrong side of the road, causing a pedestrian to jump out of the way.

He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track.

The footage has been revealed by Network Rail as the organisation continues with a nationwide programme of closing level crossings.

But although closing some crossings will decrease the risk to motorists, pedestrians and railway lines alike, there are calls for the public to reduce the risk to their own lives by taking care when approaching crossings.

Daily Echo: The car approaches the crossing as the barriers come down.Daily Echo: The driver swerves to avoid the first barrierDaily Echo: The motorist then speeds over the tracks...Daily Echo: ...and then drives off.

Sharon Vye-Parminter safety director for the Network Rail and South West Trains Alliance, which runs the railway in Hampshire, said: “We are committed to improving safety on what is already a very safe railway and we are always looking at ways to make level crossings safer. However, as this footage shows, there are still people out there who are prepared to put lives in danger.

“Closing level crossings is one way that we can reduce to the risk to the railway, but we also need the help of the public.”

A spokesman for the British Transport Police said: “We continue to work closely with Network Rail to raise awareness and educate those who use level crossings on the dangerous of misuse.

“Level crossings, and other crossings where road, footpaths and rail cross, are designed to keep people safe, but it is a sad fact that a minority of people think the rules do not apply to them.

“Drivers who willingly flout the law and place themselves and others in danger should be in no doubt that if caught doing so, we will do everything in our power to prosecute those responsible.”

Nine level crossings in Hampshire and Surrey have been closed since 2010 while audible alarms, which announce when a train is approaching, have been fitted at eight crossings.

The work is part of Network Rail's nationwide crossings improvement programme, which will see 10 per cent of the country's crossings closed by April.

The organisation says closing the crossings will reduce the overall risk level posted by crossings by 25 per cent.

The £130million programme has also seen some crossings fitted with red lights to dissuade motorists from jumping lights, 100 new level crossing managers employed and footbridges built to replace 38 crossings.

And another 500 crossings are set to close in the next five years, with a list expected to be announced in April.

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12:14pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ozmosis says...

Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver Ozmosis
  • Score: 47

12:24pm Tue 21 Jan 14

funchal says...

Hope the Police caught this idiot!
Hope the Police caught this idiot! funchal
  • Score: 47

12:40pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BikerNick says...

It's not just him, there's a whole convoy of cars and Trucks snaking their way through the red flashing lights, only takes one to stall his/her engine.
It's not just him, there's a whole convoy of cars and Trucks snaking their way through the red flashing lights, only takes one to stall his/her engine. BikerNick
  • Score: 27

12:40pm Tue 21 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

Ozmosis wrote:
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012.

So no, he won't be prosecuted.
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver[/p][/quote]Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012. So no, he won't be prosecuted. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 4

12:48pm Tue 21 Jan 14

likewatchingbrazil says...

fool
fool likewatchingbrazil
  • Score: 13

12:51pm Tue 21 Jan 14

townieboy says...

Good driving. Hate them crossings..Well done.
Good driving. Hate them crossings..Well done. townieboy
  • Score: -63

12:57pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue bigfella777
  • Score: -32

1:14pm Tue 21 Jan 14

ToastyTea says...

Fair play to him that crossing is a nightmare, was sat there for about 10mins in a taxi other day racked up about a fiver waiting.
Fair play to him that crossing is a nightmare, was sat there for about 10mins in a taxi other day racked up about a fiver waiting. ToastyTea
  • Score: -38

1:19pm Tue 21 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

bigfella777 wrote:
You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 36

1:26pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Mr E says...

This has been going on for years. The real solution is to build a bridge.
Get on with it.
This has been going on for years. The real solution is to build a bridge. Get on with it. Mr E
  • Score: 13

1:41pm Tue 21 Jan 14

loonaloop says...

He wouldnt have come to any harm on that crossing the Train never arrives on time normally down for 20mins before anything arrives. He could have parked there and popped to the Pub for a spot of lunch.
He wouldnt have come to any harm on that crossing the Train never arrives on time normally down for 20mins before anything arrives. He could have parked there and popped to the Pub for a spot of lunch. loonaloop
  • Score: -2

2:01pm Tue 21 Jan 14

miltonarcher says...

bigfella777 wrote:
You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car. miltonarcher
  • Score: 7

2:12pm Tue 21 Jan 14

camerajuan says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too.
I can absolutely guarantee you that you don't hold enough verifiable information to absolutely guarantee that.

Get over yourself!
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too.[/p][/quote]I can absolutely guarantee you that you don't hold enough verifiable information to absolutely guarantee that. Get over yourself! camerajuan
  • Score: -15

2:15pm Tue 21 Jan 14

camerajuan says...

miltonarcher wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.
I love this response to Cyclists. It's impossible to believe that we spend our money on other things that don't make us fat, lazy, motor-dependent and skint!

Or that - heaven forbid - we just like cycling places and being fit?

Narrow minded nonsense. Standard for these pages.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.[/p][/quote]I love this response to Cyclists. It's impossible to believe that we spend our money on other things that don't make us fat, lazy, motor-dependent and skint! Or that - heaven forbid - we just like cycling places and being fit? Narrow minded nonsense. Standard for these pages. camerajuan
  • Score: -10

2:37pm Tue 21 Jan 14

arthur boutfaith says...

What a show-off
What a show-off arthur boutfaith
  • Score: 4

2:57pm Tue 21 Jan 14

RomseyKeith says...

camerajuan wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.
I love this response to Cyclists. It's impossible to believe that we spend our money on other things that don't make us fat, lazy, motor-dependent and skint! Or that - heaven forbid - we just like cycling places and being fit? Narrow minded nonsense. Standard for these pages.
Some cyclists do this. It scares the **** out of me each time I see a cyclist run a red light. I saw one do this at a level crossing in Romsey, and a cyclist run a red at a busy crossroads in Shirley which caused the cars going through the green to slam their brakes on instead of hitting him.
Not all cyclists are like this though, and cycling is a great way to save money and get fit.
Not all drivers are this impatient either. The video clearly shows the majority of drivers there are waiting for the barrier.
Some people these days just have no patience, and that's what causes the most accidents on the road (in my opinion).
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.[/p][/quote]I love this response to Cyclists. It's impossible to believe that we spend our money on other things that don't make us fat, lazy, motor-dependent and skint! Or that - heaven forbid - we just like cycling places and being fit? Narrow minded nonsense. Standard for these pages.[/p][/quote]Some cyclists do this. It scares the **** out of me each time I see a cyclist run a red light. I saw one do this at a level crossing in Romsey, and a cyclist run a red at a busy crossroads in Shirley which caused the cars going through the green to slam their brakes on instead of hitting him. Not all cyclists are like this though, and cycling is a great way to save money and get fit. Not all drivers are this impatient either. The video clearly shows the majority of drivers there are waiting for the barrier. Some people these days just have no patience, and that's what causes the most accidents on the road (in my opinion). RomseyKeith
  • Score: 14

3:03pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Mary80 says...

Risking many lives is just not WORTH doing that crazy thing
Risking many lives is just not WORTH doing that crazy thing Mary80
  • Score: 4

3:04pm Tue 21 Jan 14

southy says...

The answer is to bring back man crossings
The answer is to bring back man crossings southy
  • Score: -5

3:08pm Tue 21 Jan 14

southy says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012.

So no, he won't be prosecuted.
it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver[/p][/quote]Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012. So no, he won't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s southy
  • Score: -1

3:36pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Tevez888 says...

Why has nobody mentioned the fact that he near on collides with a pedestrian on the way to jumping the lights?

The guy has no sense. Reckless and should be taken off the road!
Why has nobody mentioned the fact that he near on collides with a pedestrian on the way to jumping the lights? The guy has no sense. Reckless and should be taken off the road! Tevez888
  • Score: 12

3:39pm Tue 21 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

southy wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012.

So no, he won't be prosecuted.
it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s
There is no such offence in England.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver[/p][/quote]Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012. So no, he won't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s[/p][/quote]There is no such offence in England. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 1

3:45pm Tue 21 Jan 14

jonone says...

camerajuan wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too.
I can absolutely guarantee you that you don't hold enough verifiable information to absolutely guarantee that. Get over yourself!
Apart from that cyclist who was charged by police for doing just that. You may cycle, I may drive, it does not make either of us morally superior to the other.
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too.[/p][/quote]I can absolutely guarantee you that you don't hold enough verifiable information to absolutely guarantee that. Get over yourself![/p][/quote]Apart from that cyclist who was charged by police for doing just that. You may cycle, I may drive, it does not make either of us morally superior to the other. jonone
  • Score: 8

3:47pm Tue 21 Jan 14

footyvixen says...

just goes to show how impatient some people are, shame he didn`t get hit by the train stupid idiot. i lived by that level crossing for a number of years an many a time i have seen with my own eyes the stupidity of some drivers/ cyclists an yes pedestrians who have jumped them lights. how many people have to die before others take notice that this is a safety measure not a joke. makes me mad that the driver may of had passengers in there an would take the risk and kill others just cause they can`t wait till it`s safe to go.
just goes to show how impatient some people are, shame he didn`t get hit by the train stupid idiot. i lived by that level crossing for a number of years an many a time i have seen with my own eyes the stupidity of some drivers/ cyclists an yes pedestrians who have jumped them lights. how many people have to die before others take notice that this is a safety measure not a joke. makes me mad that the driver may of had passengers in there an would take the risk and kill others just cause they can`t wait till it`s safe to go. footyvixen
  • Score: 6

3:50pm Tue 21 Jan 14

B. L. says...

southy wrote:
The answer is to bring back man crossings
They are working on that southy, they're called footbridges. This is about vehicle crossings. :)
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The answer is to bring back man crossings[/p][/quote]They are working on that southy, they're called footbridges. This is about vehicle crossings. :) B. L.
  • Score: 1

3:53pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

miltonarcher wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.
I could quite easily afford a car, do you know why? Because I save so much money by cycling
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.[/p][/quote]I could quite easily afford a car, do you know why? Because I save so much money by cycling bigfella777
  • Score: -9

3:54pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Norwegian Saint says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
southy wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012.

So no, he won't be prosecuted.
it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s
There is no such offence in England.
Don't they still prosecute under the "driving without due care and attention"?
Must be something they can get her/him for? She/he could have killed some innocent person.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver[/p][/quote]Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012. So no, he won't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s[/p][/quote]There is no such offence in England.[/p][/quote]Don't they still prosecute under the "driving without due care and attention"? Must be something they can get her/him for? She/he could have killed some innocent person. Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 5

4:41pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

It is half-barrier crossings that have the worse risk, this crossing is monitored by CCTV, a good operator would see the problem and would react accordingly, his job is to ensure that the crossing is clear before changing the signals for the progress of any trains. At open crossings and half-barriers there are no cameras, it is up to the users to make sure they are used safely. No excuses, when the lights show red, that is the time to stop clear of the crossing.
It is half-barrier crossings that have the worse risk, this crossing is monitored by CCTV, a good operator would see the problem and would react accordingly, his job is to ensure that the crossing is clear before changing the signals for the progress of any trains. At open crossings and half-barriers there are no cameras, it is up to the users to make sure they are used safely. No excuses, when the lights show red, that is the time to stop clear of the crossing. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

4:43pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

bigfella777 wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.
I could quite easily afford a car, do you know why? Because I save so much money by cycling
As long as you remember red lights apply to you too, that's OK by me.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.[/p][/quote]I could quite easily afford a car, do you know why? Because I save so much money by cycling[/p][/quote]As long as you remember red lights apply to you too, that's OK by me. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

4:46pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

southy wrote:
The answer is to bring back man crossings
In the biblical sense?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The answer is to bring back man crossings[/p][/quote]In the biblical sense? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

4:59pm Tue 21 Jan 14

camerajuan says...

jonone wrote:
camerajuan wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too.
I can absolutely guarantee you that you don't hold enough verifiable information to absolutely guarantee that. Get over yourself!
Apart from that cyclist who was charged by police for doing just that. You may cycle, I may drive, it does not make either of us morally superior to the other.
Thats one cyclist. How many are there?

Not saying anyone is morally superior just stating that tarring an entire genre of road users because you have experienced one solitary action is ridiculous and is nothing more than speculation. I don't like to guess when it comes to dangerous road users, that's the beauty of factual information and statistics.
[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too.[/p][/quote]I can absolutely guarantee you that you don't hold enough verifiable information to absolutely guarantee that. Get over yourself![/p][/quote]Apart from that cyclist who was charged by police for doing just that. You may cycle, I may drive, it does not make either of us morally superior to the other.[/p][/quote]Thats one cyclist. How many are there? Not saying anyone is morally superior just stating that tarring an entire genre of road users because you have experienced one solitary action is ridiculous and is nothing more than speculation. I don't like to guess when it comes to dangerous road users, that's the beauty of factual information and statistics. camerajuan
  • Score: -6

5:06pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

Why do trains have right of way anyway? It's not as if they pay road tax
Why do trains have right of way anyway? It's not as if they pay road tax bigfella777
  • Score: -7

5:36pm Tue 21 Jan 14

loosehead says...

so if it was a passenger train & he the driver had stalled on the tracks & caused a train de-railment & passengers died could this total moron get don for murder?
oh! I've not got a cycle but many carry their bikes over the footbridge provided but I have seen pedestrians walking across with the barriers down.
Some of you saying well done to this idiot should think of the effect it would have on the train driver if he survives the crash many can no longer drive trains again so sorry if you don't want to wait take another route
so if it was a passenger train & he the driver had stalled on the tracks & caused a train de-railment & passengers died could this total moron get don for murder? oh! I've not got a cycle but many carry their bikes over the footbridge provided but I have seen pedestrians walking across with the barriers down. Some of you saying well done to this idiot should think of the effect it would have on the train driver if he survives the crash many can no longer drive trains again so sorry if you don't want to wait take another route loosehead
  • Score: 4

6:05pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Graeme Harrison says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
southy wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012.

So no, he won't be prosecuted.
it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s
There is no such offence in England.
Don't they still prosecute under the "driving without due care and attention"?
Must be something they can get her/him for? She/he could have killed some innocent person.
Driving without due care and attention is a summary only offence (prosecution must be brought within 6 months of the prosecutor becoming aware of the circumstances and, in any event, within 3 years) and, if you're not given a warning at the time of the commission of the alleged offence, you need to be served with notice of intended prosecution within 14 days of the commission of alleged offence.
Therefore, the driver won't be being prosecuted now if he/she hasn't been already.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver[/p][/quote]Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012. So no, he won't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s[/p][/quote]There is no such offence in England.[/p][/quote]Don't they still prosecute under the "driving without due care and attention"? Must be something they can get her/him for? She/he could have killed some innocent person.[/p][/quote]Driving without due care and attention is a summary only offence (prosecution must be brought within 6 months of the prosecutor becoming aware of the circumstances and, in any event, within 3 years) and, if you're not given a warning at the time of the commission of the alleged offence, you need to be served with notice of intended prosecution within 14 days of the commission of alleged offence. Therefore, the driver won't be being prosecuted now if he/she hasn't been already. Graeme Harrison
  • Score: 1

6:39pm Tue 21 Jan 14

florida saint says...

t@sser.
t@sser. florida saint
  • Score: 0

6:54pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
The answer is to bring back man crossings
In the biblical sense?
Sorry southy, you didn't mean the power of prayer of course, technically Mount Pleasant, Totton and Adelaide Road Level Crossings are manned crossings, albeit remotely by the use of CCTV, using full barriers. The operator can see what is going on and wouldn't allow a train to cross if there were any obstructions. Should the cameras fail it is normal to get a person to the crossing to act as the eyes for the operator through telephonic communication. Every crossing has emergency phones to be used by anyone who can see a problem, they are subject to vandalsim, and anyone that misuses them is liable to prosecution. Yes, the lights apply to everybody who use the crossings, by foot, by cycle or any form of transport, there are NO exceptions, not even the emergency services.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The answer is to bring back man crossings[/p][/quote]In the biblical sense?[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, you didn't mean the power of prayer of course, technically Mount Pleasant, Totton and Adelaide Road Level Crossings are manned crossings, albeit remotely by the use of CCTV, using full barriers. The operator can see what is going on and wouldn't allow a train to cross if there were any obstructions. Should the cameras fail it is normal to get a person to the crossing to act as the eyes for the operator through telephonic communication. Every crossing has emergency phones to be used by anyone who can see a problem, they are subject to vandalsim, and anyone that misuses them is liable to prosecution. Yes, the lights apply to everybody who use the crossings, by foot, by cycle or any form of transport, there are NO exceptions, not even the emergency services. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

7:09pm Tue 21 Jan 14

acid drop says...

funchal wrote:
Hope the Police caught this idiot!
If it was in the Mount Peasant area the car was probably nicked
[quote][p][bold]funchal[/bold] wrote: Hope the Police caught this idiot![/p][/quote]If it was in the Mount Peasant area the car was probably nicked acid drop
  • Score: 2

7:15pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Zexagon says...

bigfella777 wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.
I could quite easily afford a car, do you know why? Because I save so much money by cycling
Must be great taking a bird out
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.[/p][/quote]I could quite easily afford a car, do you know why? Because I save so much money by cycling[/p][/quote]Must be great taking a bird out Zexagon
  • Score: 2

7:16pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Torchie1 says...

camerajuan wrote:
jonone wrote:
camerajuan wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too.
I can absolutely guarantee you that you don't hold enough verifiable information to absolutely guarantee that. Get over yourself!
Apart from that cyclist who was charged by police for doing just that. You may cycle, I may drive, it does not make either of us morally superior to the other.
Thats one cyclist. How many are there?

Not saying anyone is morally superior just stating that tarring an entire genre of road users because you have experienced one solitary action is ridiculous and is nothing more than speculation. I don't like to guess when it comes to dangerous road users, that's the beauty of factual information and statistics.
You clearly missed the item on the lunchtime local news where two idiots on bicycles cut across the railway track in front of an approaching train. Not only are the cameras located at the crossings, the footage shown indicates that the cameras are in the train cabs as well.
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]I absolutely guarantee cyclists do this too.[/p][/quote]I can absolutely guarantee you that you don't hold enough verifiable information to absolutely guarantee that. Get over yourself![/p][/quote]Apart from that cyclist who was charged by police for doing just that. You may cycle, I may drive, it does not make either of us morally superior to the other.[/p][/quote]Thats one cyclist. How many are there? Not saying anyone is morally superior just stating that tarring an entire genre of road users because you have experienced one solitary action is ridiculous and is nothing more than speculation. I don't like to guess when it comes to dangerous road users, that's the beauty of factual information and statistics.[/p][/quote]You clearly missed the item on the lunchtime local news where two idiots on bicycles cut across the railway track in front of an approaching train. Not only are the cameras located at the crossings, the footage shown indicates that the cameras are in the train cabs as well. Torchie1
  • Score: 4

7:24pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

The pictures used in this article are not from a fixed installation, but I suspect one that is used occasionally to monitor misuse. The crossing operator has no way of recording the movements as such, but there is a facility available to the technicians which may be in use at times.
The pictures used in this article are not from a fixed installation, but I suspect one that is used occasionally to monitor misuse. The crossing operator has no way of recording the movements as such, but there is a facility available to the technicians which may be in use at times. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

7:26pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

7:31pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Down to Earth & Sensible says...

What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track."

Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.
What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track." Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive. Down to Earth & Sensible
  • Score: 0

7:39pm Tue 21 Jan 14

anderoo says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012.

So no, he won't be prosecuted.
If you are unsure if an offence has been committed, then I suggest that you read the highway code, under the section of railway crossings. The red flashing lights mean exactly the same as a red traffic light....STOP!
All those drivers who crossed under the red lights committed an offence under both the road traffic and railway acts. Maybe its time to put traffic light cameras at these crossings, like the ones at road traffic lights, to catch these people easily, and give them a heavy fine and possibly points on their licences.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver[/p][/quote]Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012. So no, he won't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]If you are unsure if an offence has been committed, then I suggest that you read the highway code, under the section of railway crossings. The red flashing lights mean exactly the same as a red traffic light....STOP! All those drivers who crossed under the red lights committed an offence under both the road traffic and railway acts. Maybe its time to put traffic light cameras at these crossings, like the ones at road traffic lights, to catch these people easily, and give them a heavy fine and possibly points on their licences. anderoo
  • Score: -2

7:45pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track."

Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.
The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.
[quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track." Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.[/p][/quote]The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

7:51pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Down to Earth & Sensible says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track."

Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.
The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.
Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track." Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.[/p][/quote]The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.[/p][/quote]Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing. Down to Earth & Sensible
  • Score: -4

8:13pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

RomseyKeith wrote:
camerajuan wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue
We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.
I love this response to Cyclists. It's impossible to believe that we spend our money on other things that don't make us fat, lazy, motor-dependent and skint! Or that - heaven forbid - we just like cycling places and being fit? Narrow minded nonsense. Standard for these pages.
Some cyclists do this. It scares the **** out of me each time I see a cyclist run a red light. I saw one do this at a level crossing in Romsey, and a cyclist run a red at a busy crossroads in Shirley which caused the cars going through the green to slam their brakes on instead of hitting him.
Not all cyclists are like this though, and cycling is a great way to save money and get fit.
Not all drivers are this impatient either. The video clearly shows the majority of drivers there are waiting for the barrier.
Some people these days just have no patience, and that's what causes the most accidents on the road (in my opinion).
Most agreeable comment I've found so far, had a moan at an old(must have been in his 60's or 70's) cyclist yesterday because he went through a red AND mounted the pavement yet he certainly should know better but obviously the old saying, "with age comes wisdom", doesn't apply to everyone.
[quote][p][bold]RomseyKeith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: You would never see cyclists doing this, same old car drivers always in a hurry to get to the next queue[/p][/quote]We'll never see you do this, you cant afford a car.[/p][/quote]I love this response to Cyclists. It's impossible to believe that we spend our money on other things that don't make us fat, lazy, motor-dependent and skint! Or that - heaven forbid - we just like cycling places and being fit? Narrow minded nonsense. Standard for these pages.[/p][/quote]Some cyclists do this. It scares the **** out of me each time I see a cyclist run a red light. I saw one do this at a level crossing in Romsey, and a cyclist run a red at a busy crossroads in Shirley which caused the cars going through the green to slam their brakes on instead of hitting him. Not all cyclists are like this though, and cycling is a great way to save money and get fit. Not all drivers are this impatient either. The video clearly shows the majority of drivers there are waiting for the barrier. Some people these days just have no patience, and that's what causes the most accidents on the road (in my opinion).[/p][/quote]Most agreeable comment I've found so far, had a moan at an old(must have been in his 60's or 70's) cyclist yesterday because he went through a red AND mounted the pavement yet he certainly should know better but obviously the old saying, "with age comes wisdom", doesn't apply to everyone. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -3

8:16pm Tue 21 Jan 14

sparkster says...

what a daft comment above, ie why do trains have right of way they dont pay road tax???? They move freight for one thing olus passengers, I use the trains a lot as i dont drive and have no wish to, this idiot may have ended up being killed or caused a major accident irresponsibe p>>>>k
what a daft comment above, ie why do trains have right of way they dont pay road tax???? They move freight for one thing olus passengers, I use the trains a lot as i dont drive and have no wish to, this idiot may have ended up being killed or caused a major accident irresponsibe p>>>>k sparkster
  • Score: -1

8:38pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track."

Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.
The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.
Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing.
Actually, it's down to safety protocols in the signalling system, signals and crossings are operated in a block section style, if a train is in a section on the same track as a train in the next section ahead, they get a red light, this can also cause crossing barriers to come down minutes before a train pases through, especially if a train eters that section just as another leaves the section, mount pleasant is an odd crossing though because as someone else said, it's 4 tracks, not the more traditional 2, but both pairs of track(one pair goes to the docks, the other goes to central station) are each covered by an individual block section and each section can be anywhere from half a mile to several miles long, trains are also limited in how fast they can go on that section of track due to station proximity, crossings, points and the train yard, so it's not the train companies fault, it's the fault of morons like the guy in the video and rail collisions that have caused crossing barriers to be the way they are.
[quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track." Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.[/p][/quote]The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.[/p][/quote]Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing.[/p][/quote]Actually, it's down to safety protocols in the signalling system, signals and crossings are operated in a block section style, if a train is in a section on the same track as a train in the next section ahead, they get a red light, this can also cause crossing barriers to come down minutes before a train pases through, especially if a train eters that section just as another leaves the section, mount pleasant is an odd crossing though because as someone else said, it's 4 tracks, not the more traditional 2, but both pairs of track(one pair goes to the docks, the other goes to central station) are each covered by an individual block section and each section can be anywhere from half a mile to several miles long, trains are also limited in how fast they can go on that section of track due to station proximity, crossings, points and the train yard, so it's not the train companies fault, it's the fault of morons like the guy in the video and rail collisions that have caused crossing barriers to be the way they are. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

8:40pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

sparkster wrote:
what a daft comment above, ie why do trains have right of way they dont pay road tax???? They move freight for one thing olus passengers, I use the trains a lot as i dont drive and have no wish to, this idiot may have ended up being killed or caused a major accident irresponsibe p>>>>k
I think it was a jibe at the usual comment we cyclists often get from motorists accompanied by "get the faq off the road".
[quote][p][bold]sparkster[/bold] wrote: what a daft comment above, ie why do trains have right of way they dont pay road tax???? They move freight for one thing olus passengers, I use the trains a lot as i dont drive and have no wish to, this idiot may have ended up being killed or caused a major accident irresponsibe p>>>>k[/p][/quote]I think it was a jibe at the usual comment we cyclists often get from motorists accompanied by "get the faq off the road". Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -1

9:01pm Tue 21 Jan 14

loosehead says...

Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track."

Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.
The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.
Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing.
so take an alternative route
[quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track." Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.[/p][/quote]The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.[/p][/quote]Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing.[/p][/quote]so take an alternative route loosehead
  • Score: 6

9:42pm Tue 21 Jan 14

dolomiteman says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing. dolomiteman
  • Score: 0

10:43pm Tue 21 Jan 14

southy says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
The answer is to bring back man crossings
In the biblical sense?
Sorry southy, you didn't mean the power of prayer of course, technically Mount Pleasant, Totton and Adelaide Road Level Crossings are manned crossings, albeit remotely by the use of CCTV, using full barriers. The operator can see what is going on and wouldn't allow a train to cross if there were any obstructions. Should the cameras fail it is normal to get a person to the crossing to act as the eyes for the operator through telephonic communication. Every crossing has emergency phones to be used by anyone who can see a problem, they are subject to vandalsim, and anyone that misuses them is liable to prosecution. Yes, the lights apply to everybody who use the crossings, by foot, by cycle or any form of transport, there are NO exceptions, not even the emergency services.
That is true in a way they are maned but they are not maned at the crossing, get them back and have the operation of closing them at the location
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The answer is to bring back man crossings[/p][/quote]In the biblical sense?[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, you didn't mean the power of prayer of course, technically Mount Pleasant, Totton and Adelaide Road Level Crossings are manned crossings, albeit remotely by the use of CCTV, using full barriers. The operator can see what is going on and wouldn't allow a train to cross if there were any obstructions. Should the cameras fail it is normal to get a person to the crossing to act as the eyes for the operator through telephonic communication. Every crossing has emergency phones to be used by anyone who can see a problem, they are subject to vandalsim, and anyone that misuses them is liable to prosecution. Yes, the lights apply to everybody who use the crossings, by foot, by cycle or any form of transport, there are NO exceptions, not even the emergency services.[/p][/quote]That is true in a way they are maned but they are not maned at the crossing, get them back and have the operation of closing them at the location southy
  • Score: -1

10:46pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -2

10:52pm Tue 21 Jan 14

thesouth says...

ToastyTea wrote:
Fair play to him that crossing is a nightmare, was sat there for about 10mins in a taxi other day racked up about a fiver waiting.
And your point is?
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Fair play to him that crossing is a nightmare, was sat there for about 10mins in a taxi other day racked up about a fiver waiting.[/p][/quote]And your point is? thesouth
  • Score: 1

10:58pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

thesouth wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
Fair play to him that crossing is a nightmare, was sat there for about 10mins in a taxi other day racked up about a fiver waiting.
And your point is?
The point is that they didn't think to ask the taxi driver to avoid the crossing and then tries blaming this fact on the trains and/or taxi driver.
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Fair play to him that crossing is a nightmare, was sat there for about 10mins in a taxi other day racked up about a fiver waiting.[/p][/quote]And your point is?[/p][/quote]The point is that they didn't think to ask the taxi driver to avoid the crossing and then tries blaming this fact on the trains and/or taxi driver. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -1

11:22pm Tue 21 Jan 14

southy says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
southy wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012.

So no, he won't be prosecuted.
it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s
There is no such offence in England.
Your wrong but i think your narrowly thinking in one area of road and rail traffic acts, have a wider view of thinking, In the UK you can be charge for endangering your own and others life,s, this law can be applied right across the spectrum, from with in your own home to 6 miles out to sea. its a law that is rarely used, tends to be used when a person becomes a persistence nuisance
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver[/p][/quote]Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012. So no, he won't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]it might of been in June or November, there is a law he/her can be charge with that as a 7 year statute limitation (might be 5 now) Endangering there own and other people life,s[/p][/quote]There is no such offence in England.[/p][/quote]Your wrong but i think your narrowly thinking in one area of road and rail traffic acts, have a wider view of thinking, In the UK you can be charge for endangering your own and others life,s, this law can be applied right across the spectrum, from with in your own home to 6 miles out to sea. its a law that is rarely used, tends to be used when a person becomes a persistence nuisance southy
  • Score: -1

12:00am Wed 22 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

southy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
The answer is to bring back man crossings
In the biblical sense?
Sorry southy, you didn't mean the power of prayer of course, technically Mount Pleasant, Totton and Adelaide Road Level Crossings are manned crossings, albeit remotely by the use of CCTV, using full barriers. The operator can see what is going on and wouldn't allow a train to cross if there were any obstructions. Should the cameras fail it is normal to get a person to the crossing to act as the eyes for the operator through telephonic communication. Every crossing has emergency phones to be used by anyone who can see a problem, they are subject to vandalsim, and anyone that misuses them is liable to prosecution. Yes, the lights apply to everybody who use the crossings, by foot, by cycle or any form of transport, there are NO exceptions, not even the emergency services.
That is true in a way they are maned but they are not maned at the crossing, get them back and have the operation of closing them at the location
What difference would that make, they would still be open for the same amount of time, the operators aren't just standing there operating the one crossing, they are running a large area of other railway as well, the one doing Mount Pleasant is the same bloke that does Adelaide Crossing, and all of the railway in that area, it is contolled from Eastleigh ASC at the moment, but will in a while be transferred to a new centre ar Basingstoke, even more remote than it is now.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The answer is to bring back man crossings[/p][/quote]In the biblical sense?[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, you didn't mean the power of prayer of course, technically Mount Pleasant, Totton and Adelaide Road Level Crossings are manned crossings, albeit remotely by the use of CCTV, using full barriers. The operator can see what is going on and wouldn't allow a train to cross if there were any obstructions. Should the cameras fail it is normal to get a person to the crossing to act as the eyes for the operator through telephonic communication. Every crossing has emergency phones to be used by anyone who can see a problem, they are subject to vandalsim, and anyone that misuses them is liable to prosecution. Yes, the lights apply to everybody who use the crossings, by foot, by cycle or any form of transport, there are NO exceptions, not even the emergency services.[/p][/quote]That is true in a way they are maned but they are not maned at the crossing, get them back and have the operation of closing them at the location[/p][/quote]What difference would that make, they would still be open for the same amount of time, the operators aren't just standing there operating the one crossing, they are running a large area of other railway as well, the one doing Mount Pleasant is the same bloke that does Adelaide Crossing, and all of the railway in that area, it is contolled from Eastleigh ASC at the moment, but will in a while be transferred to a new centre ar Basingstoke, even more remote than it is now. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

12:09am Wed 22 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track."

Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.
The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.
Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing.
I have sympathy with you, I frequently have been held there 20 - 25 minutes, after a match at St Marys, but you comment about times scheduling to blame is plain stupid, it is a time when up to five trains are scheduled to pass in quick succesion and the way they are spaced doesn't give operator time to raise and lower the barriers. As I said it is screaming for a bridge, blame the authorities that won't splash the cash, not the railway they have trains to move they are not a road access facility.
[quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track." Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.[/p][/quote]The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.[/p][/quote]Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing.[/p][/quote]I have sympathy with you, I frequently have been held there 20 - 25 minutes, after a match at St Marys, but you comment about times scheduling to blame is plain stupid, it is a time when up to five trains are scheduled to pass in quick succesion and the way they are spaced doesn't give operator time to raise and lower the barriers. As I said it is screaming for a bridge, blame the authorities that won't splash the cash, not the railway they have trains to move they are not a road access facility. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

6:25am Wed 22 Jan 14

nervousbumskin420 says...

most seem to assume its a man...i for one, bet its one of those bl0ody woman drivers!
most seem to assume its a man...i for one, bet its one of those bl0ody woman drivers! nervousbumskin420
  • Score: -2

7:38am Wed 22 Jan 14

Poncey says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
It's a mark 2 Audi A3. I see him driving around most week days. It has a distinctive bonnet which is vinyl wrapped, with black and silver alloys.

There's a Monsterwraps in Southbrook Road.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]It's a mark 2 Audi A3. I see him driving around most week days. It has a distinctive bonnet which is vinyl wrapped, with black and silver alloys. There's a Monsterwraps in Southbrook Road. Poncey
  • Score: 0

9:28am Wed 22 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

loosehead wrote:
Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track."

Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.
The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.
Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing.
so take an alternative route
Obviously, too stupid to.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: What this driver did was certainly " no recommended" however the account of what happened is very exaggerated. I quote "He then races across the crossing at Mount Pleasant, seconds before a train thunders down the track." Seconds before ? More like 7 to 8 minutes before the train arrived. Having used this crossing hundreds of time it is ALWAYS at least 7 to 8 minutes before the first ( of usually several) trains arrive.[/p][/quote]The delay can be down to a number of reasons, but they are a bit too complicated to explain on here, believe me it is all done for good reason, not a conspiracy to delay motorists, Mount Pleasant has been crying out for a bridge for many years, don't blame the railway, it's not their fault. Mount Pleasant is also unusual in the fact that it has four tracks, that is a rare anomaly in level crossings and allows more movements than would be normal on a standard two track set up, so the barriers tend to be down longer than otherwise would be the case. A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important.[/p][/quote]Quote" A few minutes at a stand in your life really isn't that important". No; on a "one-of" occasion that is correct but if you live in the area and get stuck 3 or 4 times a day or can easily be over an hour wasted over the course of a day x 365 days and it the equivalent of over 2 weeks wasted in the course of a year. This crossing is a curse and the railways are to blame for their times scheduling past this crossing.[/p][/quote]so take an alternative route[/p][/quote]Obviously, too stupid to. S!monOn
  • Score: 1

9:37am Wed 22 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts. S!monOn
  • Score: 0

11:04am Wed 22 Jan 14

southy says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
southy wrote:
The answer is to bring back man crossings
In the biblical sense?
Sorry southy, you didn't mean the power of prayer of course, technically Mount Pleasant, Totton and Adelaide Road Level Crossings are manned crossings, albeit remotely by the use of CCTV, using full barriers. The operator can see what is going on and wouldn't allow a train to cross if there were any obstructions. Should the cameras fail it is normal to get a person to the crossing to act as the eyes for the operator through telephonic communication. Every crossing has emergency phones to be used by anyone who can see a problem, they are subject to vandalsim, and anyone that misuses them is liable to prosecution. Yes, the lights apply to everybody who use the crossings, by foot, by cycle or any form of transport, there are NO exceptions, not even the emergency services.
That is true in a way they are maned but they are not maned at the crossing, get them back and have the operation of closing them at the location
What difference would that make, they would still be open for the same amount of time, the operators aren't just standing there operating the one crossing, they are running a large area of other railway as well, the one doing Mount Pleasant is the same bloke that does Adelaide Crossing, and all of the railway in that area, it is contolled from Eastleigh ASC at the moment, but will in a while be transferred to a new centre ar Basingstoke, even more remote than it is now.
It could make a lot of difference, more so if its double barriers you have a watchful eye on the crossing, there was a time when all crossing was maned
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The answer is to bring back man crossings[/p][/quote]In the biblical sense?[/p][/quote]Sorry southy, you didn't mean the power of prayer of course, technically Mount Pleasant, Totton and Adelaide Road Level Crossings are manned crossings, albeit remotely by the use of CCTV, using full barriers. The operator can see what is going on and wouldn't allow a train to cross if there were any obstructions. Should the cameras fail it is normal to get a person to the crossing to act as the eyes for the operator through telephonic communication. Every crossing has emergency phones to be used by anyone who can see a problem, they are subject to vandalsim, and anyone that misuses them is liable to prosecution. Yes, the lights apply to everybody who use the crossings, by foot, by cycle or any form of transport, there are NO exceptions, not even the emergency services.[/p][/quote]That is true in a way they are maned but they are not maned at the crossing, get them back and have the operation of closing them at the location[/p][/quote]What difference would that make, they would still be open for the same amount of time, the operators aren't just standing there operating the one crossing, they are running a large area of other railway as well, the one doing Mount Pleasant is the same bloke that does Adelaide Crossing, and all of the railway in that area, it is contolled from Eastleigh ASC at the moment, but will in a while be transferred to a new centre ar Basingstoke, even more remote than it is now.[/p][/quote]It could make a lot of difference, more so if its double barriers you have a watchful eye on the crossing, there was a time when all crossing was maned southy
  • Score: 0

11:12am Wed 22 Jan 14

klappdrachen says...

You only have to look at the car to see the driver is one of those boy racer wallies that make the roads so hazardous these days, and no i'm not a car owner, as i can't afford it, or a cyclist either as my ability to distinguish the colour red means i could never ride a bike. I'm a happy user of public transport, and i can look out of the bus window and wallies on two AND four wheels.
You only have to look at the car to see the driver is one of those boy racer wallies that make the roads so hazardous these days, and no i'm not a car owner, as i can't afford it, or a cyclist either as my ability to distinguish the colour red means i could never ride a bike. I'm a happy user of public transport, and i can look out of the bus window and wallies on two AND four wheels. klappdrachen
  • Score: 0

11:22am Wed 22 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Why do trains have right of way anyway? It's not as if they pay road tax
As soon as the barrier is down, it stops being a road and becomes a railway. If you're on there at that point, you're trespassing. It's often handy to have a basic knowledge of the law in these discussions, or you end up looking like a bit of a prick.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Why do trains have right of way anyway? It's not as if they pay road tax[/p][/quote]As soon as the barrier is down, it stops being a road and becomes a railway. If you're on there at that point, you're trespassing. It's often handy to have a basic knowledge of the law in these discussions, or you end up looking like a bit of a pr[b][/b]ick. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 1

11:23am Wed 22 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

loosehead wrote:
so if it was a passenger train & he the driver had stalled on the tracks & caused a train de-railment & passengers died could this total moron get don for murder?
oh! I've not got a cycle but many carry their bikes over the footbridge provided but I have seen pedestrians walking across with the barriers down.
Some of you saying well done to this idiot should think of the effect it would have on the train driver if he survives the crash many can no longer drive trains again so sorry if you don't want to wait take another route
Turns out you don't know what "murder" means.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so if it was a passenger train & he the driver had stalled on the tracks & caused a train de-railment & passengers died could this total moron get don for murder? oh! I've not got a cycle but many carry their bikes over the footbridge provided but I have seen pedestrians walking across with the barriers down. Some of you saying well done to this idiot should think of the effect it would have on the train driver if he survives the crash many can no longer drive trains again so sorry if you don't want to wait take another route[/p][/quote]Turns out you don't know what "murder" means. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 0

11:28am Wed 22 Jan 14

gilbertratchet says...

anderoo wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012.

So no, he won't be prosecuted.
If you are unsure if an offence has been committed, then I suggest that you read the highway code, under the section of railway crossings. The red flashing lights mean exactly the same as a red traffic light....STOP!
All those drivers who crossed under the red lights committed an offence under both the road traffic and railway acts. Maybe its time to put traffic light cameras at these crossings, like the ones at road traffic lights, to catch these people easily, and give them a heavy fine and possibly points on their licences.
I suggest you re-read your highway code. Pay particular attention to the part that states it is not an offence not to follow the highway code. Has this guy done anything illegal? Possibly. Possibly not. One thing's for sure - the Highway Code doesn't have the answer.
[quote][p][bold]anderoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver[/p][/quote]Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012. So no, he won't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]If you are unsure if an offence has been committed, then I suggest that you read the highway code, under the section of railway crossings. The red flashing lights mean exactly the same as a red traffic light....STOP! All those drivers who crossed under the red lights committed an offence under both the road traffic and railway acts. Maybe its time to put traffic light cameras at these crossings, like the ones at road traffic lights, to catch these people easily, and give them a heavy fine and possibly points on their licences.[/p][/quote]I suggest you re-read your highway code. Pay particular attention to the part that states it is not an offence not to follow the highway code. Has this guy done anything illegal? Possibly. Possibly not. One thing's for sure - the Highway Code doesn't have the answer. gilbertratchet
  • Score: -1

11:39am Wed 22 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.[/p][/quote]It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -2

11:41am Wed 22 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
So why did you type all that in response t what I said? Have I caught you on video doing something while driving that you know you shouldn't have done?
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.[/p][/quote]So why did you type all that in response t what I said? Have I caught you on video doing something while driving that you know you shouldn't have done? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -2

11:48am Wed 22 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
anderoo wrote:
gilbertratchet wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver
Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012.

So no, he won't be prosecuted.
If you are unsure if an offence has been committed, then I suggest that you read the highway code, under the section of railway crossings. The red flashing lights mean exactly the same as a red traffic light....STOP!
All those drivers who crossed under the red lights committed an offence under both the road traffic and railway acts. Maybe its time to put traffic light cameras at these crossings, like the ones at road traffic lights, to catch these people easily, and give them a heavy fine and possibly points on their licences.
I suggest you re-read your highway code. Pay particular attention to the part that states it is not an offence not to follow the highway code. Has this guy done anything illegal? Possibly. Possibly not. One thing's for sure - the Highway Code doesn't have the answer.
Actually, you're the one who should re-read it, and carefully at that, because parts of it ARE actually LAW, the rules that are also law, are usuallyaccompanied by the full name, sub section and section of the relevant law, such as the one saying that you MUST stop at red lights or the one that says you MUST obey the red lights at level crosings, therefore, not only did the driver of the audi commit an offence, but so did the drivers of the 4 vehicles that preceded him.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]anderoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: Let's hope the police can determine the reg plate and prosecute the driver[/p][/quote]Not happening. First, it's actually unclear whether an offence took place. Second, if an offence *did* take place, it was a driving offence. The statute of limitations on those is six months and the footage shows this happened in 2012. So no, he won't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]If you are unsure if an offence has been committed, then I suggest that you read the highway code, under the section of railway crossings. The red flashing lights mean exactly the same as a red traffic light....STOP! All those drivers who crossed under the red lights committed an offence under both the road traffic and railway acts. Maybe its time to put traffic light cameras at these crossings, like the ones at road traffic lights, to catch these people easily, and give them a heavy fine and possibly points on their licences.[/p][/quote]I suggest you re-read your highway code. Pay particular attention to the part that states it is not an offence not to follow the highway code. Has this guy done anything illegal? Possibly. Possibly not. One thing's for sure - the Highway Code doesn't have the answer.[/p][/quote]Actually, you're the one who should re-read it, and carefully at that, because parts of it ARE actually LAW, the rules that are also law, are usuallyaccompanied by the full name, sub section and section of the relevant law, such as the one saying that you MUST stop at red lights or the one that says you MUST obey the red lights at level crosings, therefore, not only did the driver of the audi commit an offence, but so did the drivers of the 4 vehicles that preceded him. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

12:25pm Wed 22 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.
Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with.

And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday.

It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.[/p][/quote]It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.[/p][/quote]Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with. And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday. It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner. S!monOn
  • Score: 0

12:35pm Wed 22 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
So why did you type all that in response t what I said? Have I caught you on video doing something while driving that you know you shouldn't have done?
Nope. I have nothing against cyclists. I try and avoid them. I give them as much space as possible. Again, trying to act as judge and jury.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.[/p][/quote]So why did you type all that in response t what I said? Have I caught you on video doing something while driving that you know you shouldn't have done?[/p][/quote]Nope. I have nothing against cyclists. I try and avoid them. I give them as much space as possible. Again, trying to act as judge and jury. S!monOn
  • Score: 0

1:45pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.
Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with.

And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday.

It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.
I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.[/p][/quote]It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.[/p][/quote]Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with. And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday. It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.[/p][/quote]I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -2

3:01pm Wed 22 Jan 14

loosehead says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
loosehead wrote:
so if it was a passenger train & he the driver had stalled on the tracks & caused a train de-railment & passengers died could this total moron get don for murder?
oh! I've not got a cycle but many carry their bikes over the footbridge provided but I have seen pedestrians walking across with the barriers down.
Some of you saying well done to this idiot should think of the effect it would have on the train driver if he survives the crash many can no longer drive trains again so sorry if you don't want to wait take another route
Turns out you don't know what "murder" means.
to intentionally end one or more persons life's isn't that murder?
to cross a barrier that's closed with a train coming that's intentional so if the cars not quick enough or stalls that's the drivers fault so isn't an accident as that driver intentionally drove on to the tracks past barriers so if any one dies because of this intentional action that's murder.
a car driver intentionally getting drunk or high on drugs then driving his/her car then hitting a pedestrian or other road user killing them that's murder or don't you think so?
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: so if it was a passenger train & he the driver had stalled on the tracks & caused a train de-railment & passengers died could this total moron get don for murder? oh! I've not got a cycle but many carry their bikes over the footbridge provided but I have seen pedestrians walking across with the barriers down. Some of you saying well done to this idiot should think of the effect it would have on the train driver if he survives the crash many can no longer drive trains again so sorry if you don't want to wait take another route[/p][/quote]Turns out you don't know what "murder" means.[/p][/quote]to intentionally end one or more persons life's isn't that murder? to cross a barrier that's closed with a train coming that's intentional so if the cars not quick enough or stalls that's the drivers fault so isn't an accident as that driver intentionally drove on to the tracks past barriers so if any one dies because of this intentional action that's murder. a car driver intentionally getting drunk or high on drugs then driving his/her car then hitting a pedestrian or other road user killing them that's murder or don't you think so? loosehead
  • Score: 2

4:36pm Wed 22 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.
Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with.

And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday.

It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.
I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.
Then you need to take it up with the authorities.

What are you trying to teach? That there are idiotic drivers out there? Well, I think we all know that.

Who are you trying to educate? The same people who know there are idiotic drivers out there. And if they didn't know, I doubt your videos would truly make them any wiser.

What do you really hope to achieve by posting the video with people's reg numbers to shared websites? I suspect some sort of vigilante revenge attack from your fellow cyclists who happen to come across this vehicle, simply because you didn't get your way with the authorities.

Simply put - I wouldn't have an issue if you didn't publish peoples reg numbers. End of.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.[/p][/quote]It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.[/p][/quote]Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with. And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday. It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.[/p][/quote]I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.[/p][/quote]Then you need to take it up with the authorities. What are you trying to teach? That there are idiotic drivers out there? Well, I think we all know that. Who are you trying to educate? The same people who know there are idiotic drivers out there. And if they didn't know, I doubt your videos would truly make them any wiser. What do you really hope to achieve by posting the video with people's reg numbers to shared websites? I suspect some sort of vigilante revenge attack from your fellow cyclists who happen to come across this vehicle, simply because you didn't get your way with the authorities. Simply put - I wouldn't have an issue if you didn't publish peoples reg numbers. End of. S!monOn
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.
Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with.

And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday.

It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.
I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.
Then you need to take it up with the authorities.

What are you trying to teach? That there are idiotic drivers out there? Well, I think we all know that.

Who are you trying to educate? The same people who know there are idiotic drivers out there. And if they didn't know, I doubt your videos would truly make them any wiser.

What do you really hope to achieve by posting the video with people's reg numbers to shared websites? I suspect some sort of vigilante revenge attack from your fellow cyclists who happen to come across this vehicle, simply because you didn't get your way with the authorities.

Simply put - I wouldn't have an issue if you didn't publish peoples reg numbers. End of.
Trying to educate others on better ways to cycle and what is illegal and also motorists who might not neccesarily know they've been doing something wrong unintentionally, I have taken things up wih the authorities, got nowhere and no, IF(and it's a massive IF) someone attacked a driver after viewing one of my videos, then I would condemn the actions of those responsible because no matter what, it's not right to attack someone that ou don't know and if you're not defending yourself from them.
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.[/p][/quote]It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.[/p][/quote]Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with. And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday. It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.[/p][/quote]I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.[/p][/quote]Then you need to take it up with the authorities. What are you trying to teach? That there are idiotic drivers out there? Well, I think we all know that. Who are you trying to educate? The same people who know there are idiotic drivers out there. And if they didn't know, I doubt your videos would truly make them any wiser. What do you really hope to achieve by posting the video with people's reg numbers to shared websites? I suspect some sort of vigilante revenge attack from your fellow cyclists who happen to come across this vehicle, simply because you didn't get your way with the authorities. Simply put - I wouldn't have an issue if you didn't publish peoples reg numbers. End of.[/p][/quote]Trying to educate others on better ways to cycle and what is illegal and also motorists who might not neccesarily know they've been doing something wrong unintentionally, I have taken things up wih the authorities, got nowhere and no, IF(and it's a massive IF) someone attacked a driver after viewing one of my videos, then I would condemn the actions of those responsible because no matter what, it's not right to attack someone that ou don't know and if you're not defending yourself from them. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -1

5:29pm Wed 22 Jan 14

S!monOn says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.
Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with.

And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday.

It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.
I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.
Then you need to take it up with the authorities.

What are you trying to teach? That there are idiotic drivers out there? Well, I think we all know that.

Who are you trying to educate? The same people who know there are idiotic drivers out there. And if they didn't know, I doubt your videos would truly make them any wiser.

What do you really hope to achieve by posting the video with people's reg numbers to shared websites? I suspect some sort of vigilante revenge attack from your fellow cyclists who happen to come across this vehicle, simply because you didn't get your way with the authorities.

Simply put - I wouldn't have an issue if you didn't publish peoples reg numbers. End of.
Trying to educate others on better ways to cycle and what is illegal and also motorists who might not neccesarily know they've been doing something wrong unintentionally, I have taken things up wih the authorities, got nowhere and no, IF(and it's a massive IF) someone attacked a driver after viewing one of my videos, then I would condemn the actions of those responsible because no matter what, it's not right to attack someone that ou don't know and if you're not defending yourself from them.
In this day and age, people look for any excuse to inflict violence and harm. You read about them every single day.

But you wouldn't edit people's reg numbers out would you?

You would condemn those violent individuals, yet, you wouldn't hold yourself accountable would you.

Ignorance is bliss.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.[/p][/quote]It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.[/p][/quote]Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with. And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday. It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.[/p][/quote]I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.[/p][/quote]Then you need to take it up with the authorities. What are you trying to teach? That there are idiotic drivers out there? Well, I think we all know that. Who are you trying to educate? The same people who know there are idiotic drivers out there. And if they didn't know, I doubt your videos would truly make them any wiser. What do you really hope to achieve by posting the video with people's reg numbers to shared websites? I suspect some sort of vigilante revenge attack from your fellow cyclists who happen to come across this vehicle, simply because you didn't get your way with the authorities. Simply put - I wouldn't have an issue if you didn't publish peoples reg numbers. End of.[/p][/quote]Trying to educate others on better ways to cycle and what is illegal and also motorists who might not neccesarily know they've been doing something wrong unintentionally, I have taken things up wih the authorities, got nowhere and no, IF(and it's a massive IF) someone attacked a driver after viewing one of my videos, then I would condemn the actions of those responsible because no matter what, it's not right to attack someone that ou don't know and if you're not defending yourself from them.[/p][/quote]In this day and age, people look for any excuse to inflict violence and harm. You read about them every single day. But you wouldn't edit people's reg numbers out would you? You would condemn those violent individuals, yet, you wouldn't hold yourself accountable would you. Ignorance is bliss. S!monOn
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5:33pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?
Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered.

It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.
I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.
I despise what you do.

I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police.

But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates.

I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.
It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.
Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with.

And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday.

It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.
I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.
Then you need to take it up with the authorities.

What are you trying to teach? That there are idiotic drivers out there? Well, I think we all know that.

Who are you trying to educate? The same people who know there are idiotic drivers out there. And if they didn't know, I doubt your videos would truly make them any wiser.

What do you really hope to achieve by posting the video with people's reg numbers to shared websites? I suspect some sort of vigilante revenge attack from your fellow cyclists who happen to come across this vehicle, simply because you didn't get your way with the authorities.

Simply put - I wouldn't have an issue if you didn't publish peoples reg numbers. End of.
Trying to educate others on better ways to cycle and what is illegal and also motorists who might not neccesarily know they've been doing something wrong unintentionally, I have taken things up wih the authorities, got nowhere and no, IF(and it's a massive IF) someone attacked a driver after viewing one of my videos, then I would condemn the actions of those responsible because no matter what, it's not right to attack someone that ou don't know and if you're not defending yourself from them.
In this day and age, people look for any excuse to inflict violence and harm. You read about them every single day.

But you wouldn't edit people's reg numbers out would you?

You would condemn those violent individuals, yet, you wouldn't hold yourself accountable would you.

Ignorance is bliss.
I wouldn't be liable anyway, I can't control people, I can't ontrol how they use information and I'm legally allowed to post number plates on public websites as number plates are already in the public domain and therefore, are public knowledge.
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The car in the picture isn't a type I recognise, any ideas and is it UK registered?[/p][/quote]Audi A3 or A4, it's right hand drive so likely to be UK registered. It looks like one that is often seen around that area driven by the owner or staff a car repair company with several outlets including one that is very close to that crossing.[/p][/quote]I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.[/p][/quote]I despise what you do. I can understand recording on a daily basis and it would be useful if any act of crime was to be caught on your camera to be passed to police. But posting on shared websites of what "you" feel is unfair treatment from car drivers when you're cycling is just plain stupid. I'd much prefer you to edit out people' number plates. I bet you claim ignorance of the potential wider implications of your posts.[/p][/quote]It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video, plus, only the police and such have access to details of where the registered owner lives and it would take forever to find a car by it's number plate and the unfair treatment that I recieve from motorists is quite often illegal or can be punished, at the very least with a section 59 warning, passing too close can land drivers a section 59, as can innappropriate use of the horn(such as behind a cyclist even though there's no room to overtake), the illegal stuff is thngs like using the phone while driving, failing to give way, tailgating, speeding, overtaking at a solid white line even though we're going more than 10mph, parking in cycle lanes, parking on cycle paths, not having lights on, shouting abuse(public order offence) and jumping red lights.[/p][/quote]Fine - pass them to the relative authorities to deal with. And it wouldn't take "forever" to find a car - especially if they could be using the same route to go to work everyday. It might be legal, but is it ethical? You're acting like judge, jury and executioner.[/p][/quote]I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.[/p][/quote]Then you need to take it up with the authorities. What are you trying to teach? That there are idiotic drivers out there? Well, I think we all know that. Who are you trying to educate? The same people who know there are idiotic drivers out there. And if they didn't know, I doubt your videos would truly make them any wiser. What do you really hope to achieve by posting the video with people's reg numbers to shared websites? I suspect some sort of vigilante revenge attack from your fellow cyclists who happen to come across this vehicle, simply because you didn't get your way with the authorities. Simply put - I wouldn't have an issue if you didn't publish peoples reg numbers. End of.[/p][/quote]Trying to educate others on better ways to cycle and what is illegal and also motorists who might not neccesarily know they've been doing something wrong unintentionally, I have taken things up wih the authorities, got nowhere and no, IF(and it's a massive IF) someone attacked a driver after viewing one of my videos, then I would condemn the actions of those responsible because no matter what, it's not right to attack someone that ou don't know and if you're not defending yourself from them.[/p][/quote]In this day and age, people look for any excuse to inflict violence and harm. You read about them every single day. But you wouldn't edit people's reg numbers out would you? You would condemn those violent individuals, yet, you wouldn't hold yourself accountable would you. Ignorance is bliss.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be liable anyway, I can't control people, I can't ontrol how they use information and I'm legally allowed to post number plates on public websites as number plates are already in the public domain and therefore, are public knowledge. Ginger_cyclist
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12:29pm Thu 23 Jan 14

AnotherLocal says...

Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though
Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though AnotherLocal
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2:20pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

AnotherLocal wrote:
Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though
Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to.
[quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though[/p][/quote]Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to. Ginger_cyclist
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2:37pm Thu 23 Jan 14

AnotherLocal says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
AnotherLocal wrote:
Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though
Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to.
Didn't want to sit and trim everything from your posts, presumed it obvious I was replying to the post directly above my own.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though[/p][/quote]Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to.[/p][/quote]Didn't want to sit and trim everything from your posts, presumed it obvious I was replying to the post directly above my own. AnotherLocal
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2:41pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

AnotherLocal wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
AnotherLocal wrote:
Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though
Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to.
Didn't want to sit and trim everything from your posts, presumed it obvious I was replying to the post directly above my own.
I did think it was me you were eplying to but I wasn't sure as you didn't even mention my name.
So why the childish name calling?
[quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though[/p][/quote]Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to.[/p][/quote]Didn't want to sit and trim everything from your posts, presumed it obvious I was replying to the post directly above my own.[/p][/quote]I did think it was me you were eplying to but I wasn't sure as you didn't even mention my name. So why the childish name calling? Ginger_cyclist
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2:54pm Thu 23 Jan 14

AnotherLocal says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
AnotherLocal wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
AnotherLocal wrote:
Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though
Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to.
Didn't want to sit and trim everything from your posts, presumed it obvious I was replying to the post directly above my own.
I did think it was me you were eplying to but I wasn't sure as you didn't even mention my name.
So why the childish name calling?
Just a 3rd party perspective on all of your previous posts, especially

I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.


followed by

I wouldn't be liable anyway, I can't control people, I can't ontrol how they use information and I'm legally allowed to post number plates on public websites as number plates are already in the public domain and therefore, are public knowledge.


Not so much childish name calling, just a outsiders perspective on your attitude
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though[/p][/quote]Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to.[/p][/quote]Didn't want to sit and trim everything from your posts, presumed it obvious I was replying to the post directly above my own.[/p][/quote]I did think it was me you were eplying to but I wasn't sure as you didn't even mention my name. So why the childish name calling?[/p][/quote]Just a 3rd party perspective on all of your previous posts, especially [quote] I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word. [/quote] followed by [quote] I wouldn't be liable anyway, I can't control people, I can't ontrol how they use information and I'm legally allowed to post number plates on public websites as number plates are already in the public domain and therefore, are public knowledge. [/quote] Not so much childish name calling, just a outsiders perspective on your attitude AnotherLocal
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2:58pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

AnotherLocal wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
AnotherLocal wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
AnotherLocal wrote:
Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though
Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to.
Didn't want to sit and trim everything from your posts, presumed it obvious I was replying to the post directly above my own.
I did think it was me you were eplying to but I wasn't sure as you didn't even mention my name.
So why the childish name calling?
Just a 3rd party perspective on all of your previous posts, especially

I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word.


followed by

I wouldn't be liable anyway, I can't control people, I can't ontrol how they use information and I'm legally allowed to post number plates on public websites as number plates are already in the public domain and therefore, are public knowledge.


Not so much childish name calling, just a outsiders perspective on your attitude
So calling me a "bellend" isn't childish name calling? Does that mean that calling you an utter moron for your opinion isn't childish name calling? Anyway, I wouldn't do what I if everyone drove properly and didn't break the law so often.
[quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: Doesnt make you any less of a bellend though[/p][/quote]Use quotes, helps people know who you're replying to.[/p][/quote]Didn't want to sit and trim everything from your posts, presumed it obvious I was replying to the post directly above my own.[/p][/quote]I did think it was me you were eplying to but I wasn't sure as you didn't even mention my name. So why the childish name calling?[/p][/quote]Just a 3rd party perspective on all of your previous posts, especially [quote] I might have the car and numer plate on video somewhere... MIGHT, being the word. [/quote] followed by [quote] I wouldn't be liable anyway, I can't control people, I can't ontrol how they use information and I'm legally allowed to post number plates on public websites as number plates are already in the public domain and therefore, are public knowledge. [/quote] Not so much childish name calling, just a outsiders perspective on your attitude[/p][/quote]So calling me a "bellend" isn't childish name calling? Does that mean that calling you an utter moron for your opinion isn't childish name calling? Anyway, I wouldn't do what I if everyone drove properly and didn't break the law so often. Ginger_cyclist
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2:58pm Thu 23 Jan 14

AnotherLocal says...

Cant find an edit button to correct that post either...
Cant find an edit button to correct that post either... AnotherLocal
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3:03pm Thu 23 Jan 14

AnotherLocal says...

So calling me a "bellend" isn't childish name calling? Does that mean that calling you an utter moron for your opinion isn't childish name calling? Anyway, I wouldn't do what I if everyone drove properly and didn't break the law so often.


Woah, make way for the keyboard vigilante. How about leaving it to the appropriate authorities

I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.


sounds like that caused you to have a chip on your shoulder, discontent with your own previous dealings leaves you:
It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video


skipping authorities and contacting companies yourself trying to find justice
[quote] So calling me a "bellend" isn't childish name calling? Does that mean that calling you an utter moron for your opinion isn't childish name calling? Anyway, I wouldn't do what I if everyone drove properly and didn't break the law so often. [/quote] Woah, make way for the keyboard vigilante. How about leaving it to the appropriate authorities [quote] I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing. [/quote] sounds like that caused you to have a chip on your shoulder, discontent with your own previous dealings leaves you: [quote] It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video [/quote] skipping authorities and contacting companies yourself trying to find justice AnotherLocal
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3:29pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

AnotherLocal wrote:
So calling me a "bellend" isn't childish name calling? Does that mean that calling you an utter moron for your opinion isn't childish name calling? Anyway, I wouldn't do what I if everyone drove properly and didn't break the law so often.


Woah, make way for the keyboard vigilante. How about leaving it to the appropriate authorities

I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing.


sounds like that caused you to have a chip on your shoulder, discontent with your own previous dealings leaves you:
It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video


skipping authorities and contacting companies yourself trying to find justice
No, I contact the companies first, if they don't give a satisfactory reply or do nothing, I will then let them know I'll be considering getting the police involved, I don't have to contact the police first unless they make contact, then the driver MUST stop and one of us to call the police because I will still get the police involved if I think it's serious enough, if not then what's the point when they probably won't take any action? And you clearly don't know that the defenition of a vigilante is someone who uses violence and goes outside the law to get justice, like most super heroes in comics are actually vigilantes and I don't use violence or go outside of the to get justice, so how am I a vigilante when I don't fit the definition? Because I'm not legally obliged to contact the police before contacting the company if I don't want to, UNLESS, contact between myself and the other vehicle is made.
[quote][p][bold]AnotherLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote] So calling me a "bellend" isn't childish name calling? Does that mean that calling you an utter moron for your opinion isn't childish name calling? Anyway, I wouldn't do what I if everyone drove properly and didn't break the law so often. [/quote] Woah, make way for the keyboard vigilante. How about leaving it to the appropriate authorities [quote] I have passed them to the relevant authorities but never took the 2 I reported seriously, one of which, was a driver, being VERY aggressive, revving his engine, beeping at me, lurching forwards towards my back wheel and forcing his way past me despite there being a large van right in front of me, oncoming traffic AND double solid white lines on the Mount pleasant crossing. [/quote] sounds like that caused you to have a chip on your shoulder, discontent with your own previous dealings leaves you: [quote] It educates people and it's better for when I report drivers to a company because then they can't say they lost the footage and numberplates are public knoledge so it's legal to post them in a video [/quote] skipping authorities and contacting companies yourself trying to find justice[/p][/quote]No, I contact the companies first, if they don't give a satisfactory reply or do nothing, I will then let them know I'll be considering getting the police involved, I don't have to contact the police first unless they make contact, then the driver MUST stop and one of us to call the police because I will still get the police involved if I think it's serious enough, if not then what's the point when they probably won't take any action? And you clearly don't know that the defenition of a vigilante is someone who uses violence and goes outside the law to get justice, like most super heroes in comics are actually vigilantes and I don't use violence or go outside of the to get justice, so how am I a vigilante when I don't fit the definition? Because I'm not legally obliged to contact the police before contacting the company if I don't want to, UNLESS, contact between myself and the other vehicle is made. Ginger_cyclist
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4:27pm Mon 10 Feb 14

anniswindsor says...

southy wrote:
The answer is to bring back man crossings
When that particular crossing was manned, the man in the signal box would lift the gates between trains, thereby reducing the queues and waiting time. Since they have done away with manned crossings, I have heard the they are controlled from a central point, which is Eastleigh. This is why the gates stay down for so long.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: The answer is to bring back man crossings[/p][/quote]When that particular crossing was manned, the man in the signal box would lift the gates between trains, thereby reducing the queues and waiting time. Since they have done away with manned crossings, I have heard the they are controlled from a central point, which is Eastleigh. This is why the gates stay down for so long. anniswindsor
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